2.6ce wire install on a 1.0 with softmod

T9110c

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Okay I am all out of ideas so i have turned to the forum pros :D.

I got a used xbox from a bro that was softmodded but i wanted a chip. So I bought this 2.6 did a wire install and all went great.

I go to turn on my xbox and it just boots up into evox (cause the hdd has a softmod :p). The chip is on with a blue light and there is a green light on the switch.

My problem is I cant figure out how to flash this chip! I have done afew x3 install noprob and all is good. But I cant figure out how to get to the Flashbios thats on the chip!

I bought the chip so i could esaily use a bigger hdd. So i attach the new hdd to see what happens and it FRAGs with a 05 error.

I have the bios so i just need to get around this small snag...

any ideas?
 

T9110c

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BTW my LAN and HDD activity lights do not light up when they are in use..

Solders are good Im looking at the board right now and have just added a touch of solder to all points including D0 (which is my guess for this problem i am having) but these solders are perfect.. I can lift the board by one wire.. so i have no idea!!!!!
 

digthebox

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the first thing I would say is that the error 05 is a perfectly normal response - you have put a new disk in and the bios is reporting the error 05 which means the hard disk is not locked. Retail bios's require the hard disk to be locked. So working things through logically here I would say that you are not getting any further than the retail bios.

now if I have got this right so far then all is not lost. I am going to say that although you say you have checked your D0 - recheck it. It sounds to be like the D0 has not even tried to switch from the retail bios to the LPC.

let me know how it goes. maybe post some digital pictures of your install!!!
 

Cra41g

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I'd go with digthebox on this one. From what you've said, the Xbox is not booting from the chip. If it was to boot from the chip, FlashBIOS would load.

You need to check your install.

I assume your new HD is empty, and will also be unlocked - that's why it isn't working.

One thing that puzzles me a little is why your Xbox isn't FRAG'ing. A problem with the D0 will cause it to FRAG, not to boot from the original onboard BIOS. Just a thought!
 

Big_Whoopin

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I thought a problem with D0 would simply cause the chip not to enable? Isn't that the point that you switch to make the chip live?

If I wasn't so lazy right now I'd pull out a problem 2.3 chip I've got kicking around and follow the traces. I could have sworn this was the purpose of the D0 point.

-Whoopin'
 

MKChampion

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D0 will not cause a frag
For those that don't know D0 is used to switch between your Xbox bios and modchip bios - sending a ground signal to the D0 line forces the Xbox to boot from the LPC port, when a ground signal is not sent then your Xbox boots as if there is no modchip; all enable/disable functions are performed by the modchip of course.
taken from the pinheader x3 install tutorial
http://teamxecuter.com/x3/tutorials/x3pin1015.htm?CMSSESSID=35d1c341053cd13f17d0dd5753331224
 

Cra41g

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Oh no, sorry guys, maybe I should read what I write!

Apologies for the confusion caused.
 

Big_Whoopin

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Thanks MKC, thought I was losing it for a moment. :)

Just thought of something with the LAN/HDD clue... all that these solder points do is pick up voltage from the MB to flash an LED. They're not difficult points to hit so for the moment let's assume you've got them 100%. These two live lines then plug into the same socket as D0. They trace through the board and out the plug to the switch bank. On the switch bank they light the LEDs and then return to ground. That is the circuit. D0 does the same except for no LED, just a switch.

Now, what are the common failures we are seeing here? D0 doesn't seem to enable the chip. HDD LED on switch doesn't work. Network LED on switch doesn't work. First thing I would check is that the red/green/grey plug is fully and properly seated in the socket on the chip board. If that looks good, next thing to check would be the cable between the chip and the switches, another common path for all circiuts. Make sure those plugs are fully seated.

I'll grant you the "D'oh!" award if you forgot to plug in the LAN/HDD/D0 plug inside the box. :D

-Whoopin'
 

T9110c

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Well i desoldered then resoldered the 3 points on that plug.. still same results.

Everything seems perfect when it comes to the soldering.

The stock hdd turns on because the stock MS bios is starting up, so that says the chip isnt picking up.. which would be because of D0. But its good :mad:

The WD160gig i have was setup with another xbox (x3 chip) with xbmc and a bunch of other apps.. but it is unlocked.

Now another thing I have noticed is that when my switch isnt plugged into the chip the chip does not turn on. Is that a normal response? If I switch the dip to OFF position then the chip is off and theres a red LED lite. When its on theres a green and a blue led on the chip.

So Im stumped. You guys suggest things and ill try em
 

T9110c

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Also what Bank should it be on when booting? I have get same result with both banks (booting with MS bios)

Also the HD and LAN Leds do work! The switch that turns the lights on and off is backwards... when its in the On position they dont light but when in the OFF they do.

So i thought maybe the other switchs might be f**ked to so i fiddle with them but nothing different then MS bios
 
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T9110c

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Ha!

Well I have a new problem :D.

K i totally removed the chip.. redid it with a pin header.. sucked up all the solder.. put new solder down and taped up the wires (Red, Green Grey)

Now Im getting a 3x reboot to a FRAG when the chip is on (same result on both banks). When the chip is set to off it boots fine with MS bios.

So what am I looking to do now?
 

Big_Whoopin

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Um, I guess this is progress? :D

At least now you know for sure the D0 tripping the chip on this time. Unfortunately you've now got a different issue. Once again make sure the plugs for the remote switch are snugly seated, and double check those solder joints. (tired of this line yet?) Just around the LPC, make sure nothing is bridged and that all are showing good contact.

I'm pretty sure this is marked right on the chip, but you are facing the X2 in the opposite direction that you would face an X3 when installing, right? Chip is hanging off the LPC and pointing towards the edge of the box, not the center?

What version of Xbox is this anyway?

-Whoopin'
 

Fantmx

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Wht happens with the chip off? If it frags, then you likely burned a trace on the board, if it works, you have a problem with your install.
 

T9110c

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well I figured it out it is this crappy f***in switch. I have to hold the chip 0n/off switch, and the bank switch by hand while it boots otherwise it will just FRAG.

But if I hold it (which i think is flippin BS) it will boot to FLashbios. Now when my damn problem isthat it wont flash the chip.. I go to up load and the POS just sits there and does nothing (well the Lan light blinks and stuff and my connection on my comp says there is data being sent and recevied), but it doesnt actually upload and flash. I let it sit for more then 45min 3 times and still nothing. Reset the box many times and still nothing.

Im guessing its because the switch isnt in place so I have been playing with that..

This sucks.. should have just got another x3 better quality all round

*Started playing with the switch after reading a bunch of posts here and on XBS, I think team X should do a redesign of that switch.. mass amounts of people are having this issue*
 
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Fantmx

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I don't know if it is so much a design problem as it is a quality control problem, but I do agree.

What happens if you try to flash it via a CD/DVD?
 

T9110c

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Great minds think alike! haha right after that post I was like I can use DVD or hdd duh! so burned a dvd and that was way easier to use since i could hold the switch before i hit the flash button.

Before i had to juggle the mouse and the switch which was impossible.

Shes all going!

Still have to fiddle with the switch alot before i can get it to boot properly.. should i see if my dealer will replace this? Should they? Are they all POS like this one?
 

Big_Whoopin

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Yes, contact the dealer you puchased the chip from and ask what they can do for you. Returns are only handled through the dealers, Team Xecuter does not directly handle this. From what I've seen when there have been problems most dealers are good about RMA'ing parts if there is a genuine problem. Don't let it go too long, there was someone else in a recent thread that had held onto their chip too long before attempting the install and by the time they encountered trouble they were outside of the return window.

-Whoopin'
 

T9110c

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Is there anyway to ajust bios settings like you can with the x3 (hiting the button combo at the animation bring you into the !live settings or whatever)

Cause when i hit the eject button the sh*t is rebooting so i want to fix that and some other stuff like that. 160gig HDD is only seen as 137.
 

MKChampion

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if you've flashed with the new X2 5035 bios with config live then you can edit the setting via the ini file that comes with it and then ftp it over to your box
 

Big_Whoopin

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X2 Config Maker is one of the better ini editors available and 5035 compatible. Xbox-scene.com page with the download link is http://www.xbox-scene.com/tools/tools.php?page=bios#newsitemEEEuuZplEEbSkAoIrxhttp://dwl.xbox-scene.com/~xbox/xbox-scene/tools/bios/x2_config_maker_v50350.3.rar. (doesn't seem X-S allows external linking) This was programmed by Klutsh and used to be hosted on his x-projects.org website, but both seem to have gone missing. Any of you guys with deeper roots in the scene know what's up with that?

-Whoopin'
 
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