A note to all

[naoneo]

for the love of god STOP BLAMING THE ****ING CHIPS
I've been here for the past few months reading every problem, eveyr whine, every gripe about the installation of the X3, X3CE, and X2.x, and in 90% of the cases, the problem has turned out to be a fault of the user, wether it be a bad solder job, or plugging in (and in some cases, not plugging in) the wires, into the wrong places or not at all, it's quite annouying seeing all these people posting "I installed the x3 and it wont power up, this chips ****ed blah blah", .

ALL CHIPS ARE TESTED BEFORE BEING DISPATCHED, THE CHANCES OF YOU GETTING A BROKEN CHIP ARE INSANELY LOW.
i have, myself, installed thousands of x3's to this date, and ive only had a problem with ONE of them, and thats because it got damaged in the mail, (aka, crushed), i have read the frontpage, and i see theres a competition for walkthroughts and guides?.
Well, i dont give a sh*t to be honest, im going to enter the competition and write a painstakingly detailed step by step guide, from ordering your chip, to enjoying your game, and troubleshooting any possible issue you could come across during normal install/operation.

maybe once im done, people can stop blaming the ****ing chips when the problem is their shoddy instals..

Rant over, please continue

 

[jonrees69]

I think knowing ones limits BEFORE deciding to get the soldering iron out and 'have a go'.

I have been soldering for 15+ years now and even I had to re-evaluate how I do things as regards to soldering when faced with a ver 1.0 mobo.

Got the job done mind with a lot of care and persaverance.

J

 

[tonylott]

I think knowing ones limits BEFORE deciding to get the soldering iron out and 'have a go'.

I have been soldering for 15+ years now and even I had to re-evaluate how I do things as regards to soldering when faced with a ver 1.0 mobo.

Got the job done mind with a lot of care and persaverance.

J

I agree. I too have been soldering for years and whilst I have had no snags so far, I can see how people with little experience mess it up. Xecuters installation guides are clear and detailed but eagerness and inexperience will keep this forum in business for years.

To any noob that reads this.... Take your time, practice your soldering and Read, Read, Read these forums. Then have a crack at it..

 

[phyushin]

lol yea i like the 'my swwitch doesnt have any power'.'did u plug it in '.'of course.. oh wait no i didnt' type posts they make me laff

 

[jonrees69]

And of course the 3 or more posts stating that the soldering is 100% ....

And right at the end they go ..... "And I re-touched pins 13 and 14 and it worked!!....." ... acting all surprised ... like 'we told ya so' .... hehe

 

[icecreamguys]

The only problem with your thread here is that newbies will post before they read it.

So, while we all agree with you, unfortunatly when I check for new threads tomorrow, I will see 10+ new ones about what you just mentioned.

Sad, I know.


-IceCreamGuys

 

[boochkn]

Well, i dont give a sh*t to be honest, im going to enter the competition and write a painstakingly detailed step by step guide, from ordering your chip, to enjoying your game, and troubleshooting any possible issue you could come across during normal install/operation.

maybe once im done, people can stop blaming the ****ing chips when the problem is their shoddy instals..

Rant over, please continue

I hate to interrupt the tone of this thread, but if you would like to include a troubleshooting guide for those of us who know what a multimeter is and how to use it that would be great!! If you read my post here you will see that not every "N00B" is blaming the chip and some of us are up against greater obstacles. I was dissapointed that the only answer I got was "check the soldering". I suppose that it is a result of many people that ask the same things over and again.

I know I need to check my soldering for God's sake, but troubleshooting electronics the right way is better than resoldering blindly...too many times in my 8+ years of hardware troubleshooting have I seen people blindly check things and inject new problems in the process. The best tool for anyone would be to see a block diagram of test points to check. I have already verified my solder points with a multimeter, but need to figure out where I may have shorted across a ground without messing up the solder points that are good. I may just order the rebuild PCB; I thought the kit I ordered came with it but it didn't ship that way.

 

[jonrees69]

I hate to interrupt the tone of this thread, but if you would like to include a troubleshooting guide for those of us who know what a multimeter is and how to use it that would be great!! If you read my post here you will see that not every "N00B" is blaming the chip and some of us are up against greater obstacles. I was dissapointed that the only answer I got was "check the soldering". I suppose that it is a result of many people that ask the same things over and again.

I know I need to check my soldering for God's sake, but troubleshooting electronics the right way is better than resoldering blindly...too many times in my 8+ years of hardware troubleshooting have I seen people blindly check things and inject new problems in the process. The best tool for anyone would be to see a block diagram of test points to check. I have already verified my solder points with a multimeter, but need to figure out where I may have shorted across a ground without messing up the solder points that are good. I may just order the rebuild PCB; I thought the kit I ordered came with it but it didn't ship that way.

I would also like to point out that often there IS no hard and fast "check this point and compare to X figure and if it's not = to X figure then you have a bad joint". People are posting with basic problems 'most' of the time. And ignoring golden rules with the X3 such as saying it doesnt work and then saying they only have 1 LED lit on the chip.

What I'm trying to say is, there are so many problems it could be, but diagnosing long-distance, one would have to say, check the soldering, because overall this is the problem. There are certain pins for certain LED's and functions, but if 'noobs' have not had the gumption to read the TUT's properly, they certainly arent going to know what the pin numbers are, probably havent got a multimeter anyway (which you dont REALLY need to install a chip and which CAN cause MORE confusion!) and if they did wouldnt know how to use one properly.

I apologise however if this ISN't you, you DO have a multimeter and DO know how to use it. I myself have had over 15 years of electronics building and problem solving experience as well as building PC's and so I get a little complacent, yes, but being lazy and not reading info that is out there is not an excuse.

I have helped loads of people on here and I think generally, you have to try and keep it as simple as possible for the majority of them. IE - check the SOLDERING !! ... sorry ...

Rant over ...

Be kind to one another !

J