A number of questions about burning original Xbox games for the 360

[FinalSoraRiku]

After a few solid days of research, trial, and asking elsewhere, I've decided that there isn't much else to do but come here for help. What I'm trying to do is back up an original Xbox game (Jet Set Radio Future/Sega GT 2002, if anybody's wondering, but I'm also planning on getting the standalone JSRF and backing it up as well, which could theoretically give me fewer issues) to play on my 360. It may be valuable to point out that I'm using iXtreme 1.1 on a very old dashboard (I don't know what the exact version is, but it has the old Blade layout), although this hasn't caused me any issues so far. My 360 is currently playing discs just fine.

I've come across an incredible range of conflicting information on merely getting original Xbox backups to work, going from "just read+burn in Xbox Backup Creator" to "rebuild in XDVDMulleter, mount and do other things, rebuild again," and I'm very unclear on just what is necessary to run an original Xbox game on iX1.1 at this point. I've ripped the game using XBC and my 360's BenQ drive (I'm unclear on whether I should have "add filler to video" checked, and I have 0800 firmware on the BenQ at the moment, but it's apparently not necessary and will just mean having to flash it again before I stick it into the 360), but XDVDMulleter has been weird for me, claiming that there is no valid video data present (all other boxes, excluding "Random Padding" and "iXtreme Compatible" are checked, although I've read that XDVDMulleter can give false negatives when it comes to padding). I can extract both the video data and the video partition, but inserting either just ticks the video data box for a split second before it becomes unchecked again. I can rebuild the ISO as a DVD9 with zeroed padding, but this doesn't solve either the random padding or the video data issue. I know this is an incredibly old program at this point, but I don't have anything else to go off of. Are XDVDMulleter's claims of incompatibility just invalid?

I'm also unaware as to whether I can actually test backups right now, as I accidentally ordered InkJet printable discs (apparently the worst thing you can do, as I found out before they arrived) in making the risky choice not to use Verbatims. This would be why I haven't done more trial and error testing, as my discs would likely skew results, and I'd like to avoid wasting any better discs once I buy them. It also means that I have not burned any discs aside from an initial incorrectly backed up ISO, but as I said, getting confirmation before I waste anything would be nice.

There is, however, one last catch, even if I don't need to bother with mulleting anything: my reason for wanting to back up the game is modding it. I have all the specifics of that worked out but one thing: making the changes to the ISO. The issue is that if I open the backed up ISO with MagicISO, I can only view the video files rather than the actual game files. XDVDMulleter has a nifty little "replace file" feature in its browse files option, but it gives me a "file must be the same length" error if I try to use it. Is there some other program I can use that can actually access the game files, and if so, do I need to somehow edit the game before padding it (assuming I need to pad it at all) so that the total image size still perfectly fits a DVD9?

Really, thanks to anyone who can help with this. I'm just tired of trying to figure this all out after two or three months of nonstop troubleshooting for everything from flashing to right now, and I've gotten to the point where it'd have been easier and cheaper to just softmod an original Xbox, but I guess I'm just too committed. I'm convinced this is all possible, but I'm really not sure about the "how" anymore, and very few people seem to be able to offer anything.

 

[rghpro]

I will be honest with you here, I vaguely read your post about as far as "xbox classic" backups, AFAIK, they do work, but you need to burn them to DVD-R-DL media, which IMO is worthless as DVD+R-DL media probably costs more than the price of any given Xbox Classic title anyway, Assuming you actually owned the original title and wanted to make a back up, it would probably be cheaper to buy another genuine disc than to make a backup, so unless you're talking about specifically making a burned copy work then this post of yours has no point, especially here at TX.

 

[FinalSoraRiku]

If you would please actually read the post, I have reasons to be wanting to back up the game instead of just buying more (and from what I know, you can't make backups of original Xbox titles without ripping the disc yourself, anyhow, and I still don't know whether I should have "add filler to video" checked when doing so). This particular game is also more expensive to buy another copy of than to back up, so the cost point is moot aside from the fact that I can't accomplish what I'm looking for with an original disc in the first place. I'd just be playing the disc I already own if that was what I wanted - I'm not scared of it dying after it survived the last twelve years.

Meaning, yes, I want to make a backup of an original Xbox title. I'd like to be told what I seem to be doing wrong before I waste any discs.

I'm mostly asking here because I can't find anybody that will bother to answer the question elsewhere. Otherwise, I realize there are better places to ask than the Xecuter forums, but I'm looking anywhere I can at this point.

If I really need to make a tl;dr for this, here: do I need XDVDMulleter for backing up the game properly for a 360 that isn't connected to XBL, and how could I modify the game data while doing so?

 

[mauricehall]

Sorry to bump this but I am currently in the same exact boat as I also am trying to find ways to back up JSRF and play it on 360. I am finding lots of conflicting evidence that is not helping. If you find any leads and would be so awesome to let me know I would be forever in debt. or at least in debt until I finish the game