RGH Alternate point for "C" on the Coolrunner board?

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Coragin

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Hi, I got my coolrunner and first solder pad "C" came right off the Coolrunner Chip.

Is there an alternate solder point for "C" on the Coolrunner chip? Please.

(Note this is not "C" on the 360 motherboard, this is "C" on the coolrunner chip.

Thanks guys. and if there is an alternate point for "D" as well, that one is very loose. (I dont know how this happened, but so long as I have alternate points, I wont need to send it back.)
 
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thats what i was going to say and also if u messed the pads on the coolrunner mate in all fairness DONT GO NEAR THE XBOX u will kill it
 
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Well how nice that everyone automatically assumes its my soldering. Considering I own a rework station, do reballs, have jtaged hundreds of 360's and have RGH 10 xbox 360's in the last 24 hours, I highly doubt its my soldering or my iron.

Soldering Iron's 2 x 25w, 1 x 35w, and my primary is connected to my hot hair rework station with variable temp control.

Its not my soldering, the pad just came off.

Now is there an alternate point C on the board? Or would you like to continue to talk about my soldering skills? Which also include modding controllers, ROL mods (With red and colored lights). Internalizing HDD, USB hubs and wifi. And a slew of other mods.

If it was my soldering or I even thought it might be in any way shape or form, I would say I accidently ripped the pad off from bad soldering, too much heat, ect ect.

If you would like to assume it is my soldering, please assume it is, I dont care either way. But, while you assume it is my soldering, please answer my question as to an alternate point "C".

And by the way "D" seems loose to me, it could have just been a bad board from the factory. IDK, all I do know is I would like to know if there is an alternate point for "C". Since the board is all white with no trace lines I can see, I figured I would ask here as it is for help.

Thank you.
 
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Coragin said:
Well how nice that everyone automatically assumes its my soldering. Considering I own a rework station, do reballs, have jtaged hundreds of 360's and have RGH 10 xbox 360's in the last 24 hours, I highly doubt its my soldering or my iron.

Soldering Iron's 2 x 25w, 1 x 35w, and my primary is connected to my hot hair rework station with variable temp control.

Its not my soldering, the pad just came off.

Now is there an alternate point C on the board? Or would you like to continue to talk about my soldering skills? Which also include modding controllers, ROL mods (With red and colored lights). Internalizing HDD, USB hubs and wifi. And a slew of other mods.

If it was my soldering or I even thought it might be in any way shape or form, I would say I accidently ripped the pad off from bad soldering, too much heat, ect ect.

If you would like to assume it is my soldering, please assume it is, I dont care either way. But, while you assume it is my soldering, please answer my question as to an alternate point "C".

And by the way "D" seems loose to me, it could have just been a bad board from the factory. IDK, all I do know is I would like to know if there is an alternate point for "C". Since the board is all white with no trace lines I can see, I figured I would ask here as it is for help.

Thank you.
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if you look at the post above you.

there a little pic.

point c and d.
 
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bandit123 said:
wow can u put a pic up plz

is it ur soldering thats caused this??
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i refer to this question not assumtion

by the time you finished your rant about how everyone is presuming its your soldering there was already an answer

like you said if it was your soldering you would have said
BUT if it wasnt your soldering you still didnt say neither thats why i asked and not presumed

massive difference ;)
 
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this point c you mean. how the hell ppl lift these pads on the cr i never no.

and point d
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Yes that point "C" and "D" I need to know where those traces go and if there is an alternate on the chip.

I believe "C" comes directly off the square black chip on the board. If that is the case, its an easy fix.

But as I said, the board is painted white, so I cant trace the traces without scraping them all the way to the next point.

Which I will not do, I would just send it back and get a new one that isint defective. I already got a response from the reseller I bought it from, he is just waiting on a response from me on what I am going to do. If I can just use an alternate point, I would rather do that than go through the hassle of waiting for one to arrive and shipping this back to him where he will ship it back to where it came from. A whole lot of nonsense that can easily be avoided by just using an alternate point.

So if anyone could tell me or post a pic with a circle around the alt point, thank you in advance. If there isint, I guess this is going back.

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ishockin said:
If it isn't it soldering then why not post a picture of the coolrunner?
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Because it is not pertinent to my question. I also only have a camera phone and I am not gonna snap a pic, dig out my usb cable, transfer it to my pc, upload it to where ever, just to appease people who want a pic.

A pic is not important to the question I asked...

"Is there an alternate point for pad "C"?"

Dont need a pic to answer that question.

EDIT: Oops, yes pic above my post. It didnt load the first time, system said it wasent there or something and didnt try after the first try. Deeeerrrr. (Yes that was my idiocracy lol) Thank you Dgenx
 
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Maybe you could cut the trace that is underneath the board and solder to that but I'm not sure how that would work out because then how would you place it onto to console. But if you thought it was a defective board then why didn't you contact the reseller which is why I asked for a pic just to see if it was defective
 
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Coragin said:
Well how nice that everyone automatically assumes its my soldering. Considering I own a rework station, do reballs, have jtaged hundreds of 360's and have RGH 10 xbox 360's in the last 24 hours, I highly doubt its my soldering or my iron.

Soldering Iron's 2 x 25w, 1 x 35w, and my primary is connected to my hot hair rework station with variable temp control.

Its not my soldering, the pad just came off.

Now is there an alternate point C on the board? Or would you like to continue to talk about my soldering skills? Which also include modding controllers, ROL mods (With red and colored lights). Internalizing HDD, USB hubs and wifi. And a slew of other mods.

If it was my soldering or I even thought it might be in any way shape or form, I would say I accidently ripped the pad off from bad soldering, too much heat, ect ect.

If you would like to assume it is my soldering, please assume it is, I dont care either way. But, while you assume it is my soldering, please answer my question as to an alternate point "C".

And by the way "D" seems loose to me, it could have just been a bad board from the factory. IDK, all I do know is I would like to know if there is an alternate point for "C". Since the board is all white with no trace lines I can see, I figured I would ask here as it is for help.

Thank you.
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You own all this stuff yet no multimeter maby you should have got one before your rework station lol
 
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Coragin

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Well thank you for the alternate points pic, I wanted you to know the board is now working.

Last question while I am here since this is the first coolrunner I have installed.

(Others were generic)

1. This is a Falcon board and its not booting (I think) green light is flashing fast, then stops fast then stops. I know that means it is working. But I read some where that Falcons sometimes have to use Zeypher. Does that mean Zeypher ecc or Glitch chip program as zeypher? Liuke I said others all booted fine.

2. The reason I say I think it is booting is because I do not have access to the TV I used for all the others (HDMI) and am using a computer monitor with regular AV outputs. Xell will boot into AV like a JTAG will right? Or is this RGH dependent upon HDMI? If so wont be until Monday till I know :/

And yes I need a new multimeter, frustration can someones cause you to do stupid things, like throw the thing nearest to you across your workshop (My multimeter + 360 Controller). :)

Thank you again for your help earlier guys and sorry I let my frustration pile over into my postings.
 
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But I read some where that Falcons sometimes have to use Zeypher. Does that mean Zeypher ecc or Glitch chip program as zeypher?
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That means use the Zephyr JED/XSVF (Zephyr CPU glitch timings).

Xell will boot into AV like a JTAG will right? Or is this RGH dependent upon HDMI?
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You can use AV fine, it is not tied to just HDMI.
 
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Thanks Blakey8,

Guess its just a matter of time then. Updated dash to 13599 right before glitch install as well. I think if it wont boot I will redo some wiring/check to make sure they are not crossing anything they are not supposed to. At least I know its working, I can close off the difficult solder points that are perfect (checked with magnifying glass) with hot glue to keep them safe. :)
 
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Coragin said:
Well how nice that everyone automatically assumes its my soldering. Considering I own a rework station, do reballs, have jtaged hundreds of 360's and have RGH 10 xbox 360's in the last 24 hours, I highly doubt its my soldering or my iron.

Soldering Iron's 2 x 25w, 1 x 35w, and my primary is connected to my hot hair rework station with variable temp control.

Its not my soldering, the pad just came off.

Now is there an alternate point C on the board? Or would you like to continue to talk about my soldering skills? Which also include modding controllers, ROL mods (With red and colored lights). Internalizing HDD, USB hubs and wifi. And a slew of other mods.

If it was my soldering or I even thought it might be in any way shape or form, I would say I accidently ripped the pad off from bad soldering, too much heat, ect ect.

If you would like to assume it is my soldering, please assume it is, I dont care either way. But, while you assume it is my soldering, please answer my question as to an alternate point "C".

And by the way "D" seems loose to me, it could have just been a bad board from the factory. IDK, all I do know is I would like to know if there is an alternate point for "C". Since the board is all white with no trace lines I can see, I figured I would ask here as it is for help.

Thank you.
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yup that is what the op did say :rolleyes2:

me thinks it's his soldering.

anyway glad you got it running.

dont forget that thanks button.:tongue:
 
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Yes I said 10, it was not a typo. I installed 10 RGH this is the FIRST coolrunner.

Yep that is what the OP did say. Dont take this as rude when I say it, but if you remembered I said 10 RGH and then saw this...

Last question while I am here since this is the first coolrunner I have installed.

(Others were generic)
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Did nobody compare the two statements? Or even see this?

(Others were generic)
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10 RGH installed
First COOLRUNNER

As I said not meaning to be rude or sound rude in the slightest, but just from the quote it should have been apparent. Just saying. and I would like to add the posts have not been edited.

I concur with dgenx and bandit123, both too funny and double funny. Although I think it may be for different reasons. Still sure its not my soldering. :) ;)

Edit: added in (Others were generic) part.
 
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