The last 20 tries now my falcon glitches 15 times between 1 - 50 sec and 5 times between 1 - 2,5 min using blue phat wire without 10 ohm resistor.
Any headway with the falcon rgh2?
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got some falcons I'm trying to glitch using the cap method everyone seems to be having luck with. Can someone verify that these are the correct voltage? 470pf 50v ebay item (270337795805) and 680pf 50v (221050040572) Havn't ever had to use caps yet but I'm assuming that 50v is enough but tbh I'm not sure...
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those are the ones i got. I had no luck with the 680's. i got it to glitch with the 470 and 3.3 combo. good luck.
I got some falcon with 3K3 resistor and 470pF capacitor. Today I am going to try with the new .xsvf Martin C has posted
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Already tried it to no avail. The console would atempt to glitch and then just freeze on 3 green lights... tried adding a 3.3k resistor but same deal. I have others here Im gonna try your new xsvf out on. As you know some consoles are just stubborn, this is one of those:facepalm:...
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i tried it today but with CPU_RST on board it did not glitch, with cable outside (under) metal casing it glitched. resets before boot before, about 15 and now mostly betwen 1-5 resets. defenitly a improvment, but i dont know if it was the new CR-file or the new CPU_RST routing.
ANy chance of someone coverting the new file to .jed? I would really appreciate it as I'm having a bad week with RGH2 and CR :-(
BTW: Whenever I desolder c15 on a rev.b the green light stops flashing (unless switched to slim) does anyone have any idea what might be causing this?
I have 3 CRs now on 2 seperate falcons that aren't working properly (or at all..) I had xell up on one of them a few times, but then it thought it was a good idea to try and improve on the 1-2 minute boot times... bad idea pretty sure somehow the chip go cooked (I had this bad habit of briefly touching the rst line, as it often makes RGH1's glitch instantly.. after earthing of course) I havent done that with this latest one& still have this no green-light on phat setting issue. I've been exclusively using J-runner to build the files also..
BTW: Whenever I desolder c15 on a rev.b the green light stops flashing (unless switched to slim) does anyone have any idea what might be causing this?
I have 3 CRs now on 2 seperate falcons that aren't working properly (or at all..) I had xell up on one of them a few times, but then it thought it was a good idea to try and improve on the 1-2 minute boot times... bad idea pretty sure somehow the chip go cooked (I had this bad habit of briefly touching the rst line, as it often makes RGH1's glitch instantly.. after earthing of course) I havent done that with this latest one& still have this no green-light on phat setting issue. I've been exclusively using J-runner to build the files also..
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since we want to try to introduce noise, move to a thinner wire for CPU_RST. If you have Kynar wire, it's worth a shot.
Tried with Kynar also tried with some very thin enamel wire but still getting wildly erratic boot times. Sometimes instant other times 10 min+
So frustrating these falcon Rgh2's
So frustrating these falcon Rgh2's
I wanted to post this the other night, however as soon as I figured something out, The forum started moving servers? lol.
I've got four Falcon on 5773
Using rgh2 NOTHING would work on any of them.
Updated all to the .xsvf Martin C Posted before, removed all the caps ect.
System
1-Elite-Falcon 5773 CR rev B- Now boots in under 45 seconds. Using original blue wire at 30cm ran just like rgh1 tutorials
2-Elite-Falcon 5773 CR rev C- booting at 14 seconds using blue wire, however it is ran over the fan shroud across the case WITHOUT DVD drive in place
3-No idea-Falcon 5773 CR rev C-boots in just under 2 minutes, blue wire, cap on cpu_rst got faster boot times partially but not consistantly.
4-No idea-Falcon 5773 CR rev A- This was an extra botched install I had from a while ago, figured ah why not see what it does for the kids? on the .xsvf Martin C put up this install running RGH2 install no boots literally within 5 seconds EVERY boot. It IS running a alt point for cpu_rst. and all the regualr wiring as well.
After #4 acted like this, I started to take #1 and ran alt point for cpu_rst as well, this got me to under 10 seconds, no cap!
Going to try the same with #2, and #3, today.
Sorry for the long post just hoping this might help someone else here.
I also used hot glue (which I absolutely HATE) but it seems to help keep the wiring in that "Sweet Spot" better than the insulated tape.
Martin C...you are the sh*t. Thanks man!
I've got four Falcon on 5773
Using rgh2 NOTHING would work on any of them.
Updated all to the .xsvf Martin C Posted before, removed all the caps ect.
System
1-Elite-Falcon 5773 CR rev B- Now boots in under 45 seconds. Using original blue wire at 30cm ran just like rgh1 tutorials
2-Elite-Falcon 5773 CR rev C- booting at 14 seconds using blue wire, however it is ran over the fan shroud across the case WITHOUT DVD drive in place
3-No idea-Falcon 5773 CR rev C-boots in just under 2 minutes, blue wire, cap on cpu_rst got faster boot times partially but not consistantly.
4-No idea-Falcon 5773 CR rev A- This was an extra botched install I had from a while ago, figured ah why not see what it does for the kids? on the .xsvf Martin C put up this install running RGH2 install no boots literally within 5 seconds EVERY boot. It IS running a alt point for cpu_rst. and all the regualr wiring as well.
After #4 acted like this, I started to take #1 and ran alt point for cpu_rst as well, this got me to under 10 seconds, no cap!
Going to try the same with #2, and #3, today.
Sorry for the long post just hoping this might help someone else here.
I also used hot glue (which I absolutely HATE) but it seems to help keep the wiring in that "Sweet Spot" better than the insulated tape.
Martin C...you are the sh*t. Thanks man!
Could you post a picture of this alt point? Or do you mean the one on the bottom? Hows the wiring? If it does magically reduce boot times, I would like to know how you did it :wink:
It s the alt point as far as the bottom, it was a box I picked up that had been molested pretty bad, so I was just kind of playing with it. Will get pics up tonight.
By "regualr wiring" I meant it is not using anything but what is included in the packaging for rev a coolrunners.
By "regualr wiring" I meant it is not using anything but what is included in the packaging for rev a coolrunners.
Hi All,
I tried RGH2 for the first time and unfortunately the system I'm experimenting with is Falcon. Surprisingly, but Falcons are the best boards for RGH1, they always start from the first glitch as opposite to BB Jaspers which are pain in the ass. But lets return to RGH2... CoolRunner rev.B, C15 removed, 10 Om resistor added. I was managed to run Xell and then freeboot with the latest falconrgh2v2.xsvf, but it takes too long, sometimes up to 15 minutes. I tried B, C, D timing files with 470 pF cap and 3.3 kOm resistor - no luck, could not get it glitched at all. Tried different routing of the blue wire - seems that this doesn't affect my system, I can't say that this routing works better that that. What else can I try to get it glitched faster ?
Did anyone ever try to use scientific methods of improving RGH2, like researching the form of the reset signal with oscillograph ?
I tried RGH2 for the first time and unfortunately the system I'm experimenting with is Falcon. Surprisingly, but Falcons are the best boards for RGH1, they always start from the first glitch as opposite to BB Jaspers which are pain in the ass. But lets return to RGH2... CoolRunner rev.B, C15 removed, 10 Om resistor added. I was managed to run Xell and then freeboot with the latest falconrgh2v2.xsvf, but it takes too long, sometimes up to 15 minutes. I tried B, C, D timing files with 470 pF cap and 3.3 kOm resistor - no luck, could not get it glitched at all. Tried different routing of the blue wire - seems that this doesn't affect my system, I can't say that this routing works better that that. What else can I try to get it glitched faster ?
Did anyone ever try to use scientific methods of improving RGH2, like researching the form of the reset signal with oscillograph ?
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Did you try w/out caps and resitors?
The xsvf martin released is meant to be used with no caps or resistors. Also try using 30awg kynar wire or other kynar wire if you have it
Unfortunately rgh 2.0 was released prematurely which ultimately means we need alot of trial and error before anyone gets is figured out. Even if someone finds a method to get a falcon, zephyr or Jasper BB or small glitching quickly with rgh2.0, no 2 consoles are the same and therefore what works for one may not work for the other...
The xsvf martin released is meant to be used with no caps or resistors. Also try using 30awg kynar wire or other kynar wire if you have it
Unfortunately rgh 2.0 was released prematurely which ultimately means we need alot of trial and error before anyone gets is figured out. Even if someone finds a method to get a falcon, zephyr or Jasper BB or small glitching quickly with rgh2.0, no 2 consoles are the same and therefore what works for one may not work for the other...
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Yes, it's without the cap. With 470pf cap and 3.3kOhm resistor it doesn't glitch at all, no matter what timing file I upload. I use regular blue wire which is included with Coolrunner.
May be all Falcons are different, but RGH1 works perfectly on all of them, which I can't tell about Jasper 512.
May be all Falcons are different, but RGH1 works perfectly on all of them, which I can't tell about Jasper 512.
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UPDATE: see above for #'s of each console...
#1 boots take longer and longer, now at 4 minutes but consistant with alt point
#2 didnt boot at all once changed, and then back to decent enough to use after reverting back
#3 boots perfect on stock nand, Nada on alt point, nada on reverting back now (I've begun to call this one "The Bastard")
#4 still running strong
The alt point i'm mentioning is the alt for when you ___ up found on the forum NOT the regular cpu-rst point
My camera is junk on macro (Iknow how great is it that everyone's camera breaks when talking about solder!?!) So hopefully tomorrow I'll have a new cam to snap some with.
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One thing I have noticed though, when taking long ass time, the coolrunner stops trying to glitch altogether with the new timing file? Havent had a chance to count the cycles or anything but is this normal?
#1 boots take longer and longer, now at 4 minutes but consistant with alt point
#2 didnt boot at all once changed, and then back to decent enough to use after reverting back
#3 boots perfect on stock nand, Nada on alt point, nada on reverting back now (I've begun to call this one "The Bastard")
#4 still running strong
The alt point i'm mentioning is the alt for when you ___ up found on the forum NOT the regular cpu-rst point
My camera is junk on macro (Iknow how great is it that everyone's camera breaks when talking about solder!?!) So hopefully tomorrow I'll have a new cam to snap some with.
---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------
One thing I have noticed though, when taking long ass time, the coolrunner stops trying to glitch altogether with the new timing file? Havent had a chance to count the cycles or anything but is this normal?
Hi guys, maybe my question was answered few post before, but because I am lazy to find it I will ask it again. I have Falcon with 14719 dash. It is glitched with RGH 2.0 coolrunner rev b. The boot timing is from 30 sec to 3min. The biggest problem is that it freezes when playing games. And this is not an overheating problem! Is there any fix to this problem or should I just play with the wires placement and etc?