Any headway with the falcon rgh2?

antonio010

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Just wanted to post up with my experience. Had a falcon RGH2 that would not glitch for the life of me. Did the 3.3k resistor and 470pf capacitor now it glitches 3-5 seconds every time. Definitely worth adding this as a sticky or inside the guide. This falcon boots faster than my slim now!
 

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just did an rgh2.0 works great. I did it with the 10ohms, c15 removed. Here are my times 6min 19sec, 2min 1sec, 5min 33sec, 2min 1sec, 38sec, 6sec, 6min 27sec. Im using the original falcon2.0 timing file. Using coolrunner Rev. b
 
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just did an rgh2.0 works great. I did it with the 10ohms, c15 removed. Here are my times 6min 19sec, 2min 1sec, 5min 33sec, 2min 1sec, 38sec, 6sec, 6min 27sec. Im using the original falcon2.0 timing file. Using coolrunner Rev. b
5..6 minutes definitely not great. Try resistor with a cap.
 

ricoaus77

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Any news on the cpu reset cleaner? I have a falcon 5772 which is also a nightmare to glitch however have not brought any resistors yet because i read the cpu reset will be released soon? does anyone know the planned release date?.

My issues are common- will not glitch at all with the shielded cable, standard 30cm wire it will. Best results was with the D coolrunner file however still inconsistent some times glitches first go others 3+ minutes. Hope the reset cleaner can help make it more consistent ....

I have the coolrunner rev 3 (corrected thanks to WNYConsoles) as well on standard fat RGH2 setup
 
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EduardF

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Just wanted to post up with my experience. Had a falcon RGH2 that would not glitch for the life of me. Did the 3.3k resistor and 470pf capacitor now it glitches 3-5 seconds every time. Definitely worth adding this as a sticky or inside the guide. This falcon boots faster than my slim now!
do you have any freeze problems ?

i hope that i solved my freeze problems.
had RST on the bottom of MOBO
now I put it up over fan etc

worked fine for hours
 

luniq

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Just wanted to post up with my experience. Had a falcon RGH2 that would not glitch for the life of me. Did the 3.3k resistor and 470pf capacitor now it glitches 3-5 seconds every time. Definitely worth adding this as a sticky or inside the guide. This falcon boots faster than my slim now!
man that will be a perfect console for dual nand setup i have been planning to do. My falcon boot times ranging from 5 seconds to 3 minutes. Can you post your setup in more details, pictures would be very helpful :).
 

antonio010

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do you have any freeze problems ?

i hope that i solved my freeze problems.
had RST on the bottom of MOBO
now I put it up over fan etc

worked fine for hours
No freeze issues, I too use the top point a long with the regular phat blue wire.

man that will be a perfect console for dual nand setup i have been planning to do. My falcon boot times ranging from 5 seconds to 3 minutes. Can you post your setup in more details, pictures would be very helpful :).
Unfortunately, I did not take pics and I've already returned the system to the customer. :(
Basically the normal install, I used the regular blue wire and routed the RST wire on the top of the mobo and ran under the fan shroud. I have a few more systems to get to this week. If I come across another falcon RGH2, I'll be sure to document and update.
 
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luniq

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I have here a falcon that hangs everytime i play games. So i tried flashing back to retail and the xbox still runs after 20 minutes playing a game while with glitch it only ran 3 minutes before it hangs with the same game. Both is done while the coolrunner is off (with glitch flash, coolrunner is turned off after boot). I believe interference is not the problem here because if so retail would also hang.
My theory is that critical cpu instructions are disturbed during glitching and they are saved in memory. When they are called again unexpected values come up and the xbox hangs. This is just my theory i came up out of thin air, i know nothing about the inner workings of the hardware of the xbox and just know a little bit how the glitch hack works but it does sound logical to me. Well, just sharing my theory :)
 

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I have here a falcon that hangs everytime i play games. So i tried flashing back to retail and the xbox still runs after 20 minutes playing a game while with glitch it only ran 3 minutes before it hangs with the same game. Both is done while the coolrunner is off (with glitch flash, coolrunner is turned off after boot). I believe interference is not the problem here because if so retail would also hang.
My theory is that critical cpu instructions are disturbed during glitching and they are saved in memory. When they are called again unexpected values come up and the xbox hangs. This is just my theory i came up out of thin air, i know nothing about the inner workings of the hardware of the xbox and just know a little bit how the glitch hack works but it does sound logical to me. Well, just sharing my theory :)
Sounds like you might have an overheat problem. My box did the same thing when i RGH it for the first time. In settings find the spot for fan speed and set it to 100% and try playing games again and see what happens. I dont know why or maybe its just me but RGH consoles seam to run hotter than stock ones.

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luniq

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no its not overheat problem, i play on retail and glitch under the same condition, the glitch hangs and retail does not. The overheat problem is because of the crappy stock thermal paste. The thermal paste is solid and the connection between heatsink and gpu/cpu can break when you wiggle the heatsink which is very easy to do when you lift the board out of the cage by pulling the heatsink, a better way to pull out the motherboard from the cage is by pulling the memory slot. When this happens the thermal paste practically does not work anymore and you need to replace to thermal paste.
 

Vwracer69

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Both of the glitched falcons i have had the same problem, while glitched they would hang/freeze in FSD. When they were reflashed to stock i could play for hours. If you look here and on the FSD site youll see that having the fan speed set to auto can cause freezing. Took a while for that bit of info to be shared. Hell i was told i had to reflow the board to fix the issue. All im saying is give it a try, worked for me. Like i stated earlier, for me the RGH xbox runs hotter than a stock xbox. Don't know if that is factual or not it just my opinion.

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luniq

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I had tried setting fan to 100% and it still hangs. I havent tried other values though.
 

Dermodragon

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Surely it can't be true that RGHing a console causes it to run hotter. That makes no sense to me unless the RGH alters the fan settings, which it doesn't by default as far as I know. We need a 'pro' to step in on this one, as I don't want to bother RGHing consoles if it will cause them to overheat.
 

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Surely it can't be true that RGHing a console causes it to run hotter. That makes no sense to me unless the RGH alters the fan settings, which it doesn't by default as far as I know. We need a 'pro' to step in on this one, as I don't want to bother RGHing consoles if it will cause them to overheat.
The reason why RGH consoles run hotter is simple: You're very likely to disturb the thermal bond between the CPU and heatsink when taking the board out of the chassis. Therefore, if you've noticed the CPU heatsink is loose, it needs to be removed and thermal paste replaced.
 

Dermodragon

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I see, thanks. So if you don't disturb the heatsinks there is no reason for the console to run hotter - confirmed.

Leading on from that, how do you all hold the motherboard in place when you are soldering the bottom points? The natural noob thing is to flip him over resting on the CPU heatsink and maybe propped up on the other side with some suitably-tall object. But it seems that doing this there's a good chance you'll disturb the paste.

I've got one overheating 0013 and I don't know whether to reflow (ram chips) or just first try re-pasting. The problem is that you have to sell a limb for a tube of AS5, so you don't want to be using it unecessarily really.

Looking forward to reading more RGH2 Falcon success stories with the cleaner. Martin, I hope you're getting a few pence per sale.
 

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I see, thanks. So if you don't disturb the heatsinks there is no reason for the console to run hotter - confirmed.

Leading on from that, how do you all hold the motherboard in place when you are soldering the bottom points? The natural noob thing is to flip him over resting on the CPU heatsink and maybe propped up on the other side with some suitably-tall object. But it seems that doing this there's a good chance you'll disturb the paste.

I've got one overheating 0013 and I don't know whether to reflow (ram chips) or just first try re-pasting. The problem is that you have to sell a limb for a tube of AS5, so you don't want to be using it unecessarily really.

Looking forward to reading more RGH2 Falcon success stories with the cleaner. Martin, I hope you're getting a few pence per sale.
Isn't 0013 the EDRAM over heat, not the actual RAM chips. The EDRAM is the small die on the GPU
 
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Dermodragon

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Isn't 0013 the EDRAM over heat, not the actual RAM chips. The EDRAM is the small die on the GPU
I've never heard that before to be honest, but that doesn't mean it's not true. It makes more sense to me than the actual RAM chips overheating as how can one possibly control how hot they get?

0013 seems to be one of the strangest, unhelpful 360 errors. I guess i'll just reflow the whole board and if it doesn't work then I'll bin it. It's really annoying not knowing the exact problem, as you're basically just stabbing in the relative darkness.

Of course I'll be reflowing with a heat gun as I'm not spending $$$ on a rework station for a £40 phat. Therefore my chance of success is probably about 1/10.