Bakeup Games on Xbox HDD run slow...really slow.

bvic01

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CRIBREK said:
TokenUser said:
CRIBREK said:
But first when you get all your files from your xbox to your pc, DEFRAG your PC Hard Drive. So it can at least put some files in order .
WTF? Learn how hard drives work. If you want to be assinine about this you would want to defrag the PC hard drive BEFORE ftping the files the Xbox so that they can occupy contiguous disc space - but even that is a stretch.
I bet you never even opened up a hard drive. I done took the disks out of the hard drive to put in another so I can get someones data back from a fryed drive. sectors, heads, cycles, and I don't know how hard drives work. HA
then you done been lyin out your ass. next you are gonna say you have a clean room to do it in right? yeah, fuk off!
 

AJerman

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rofl, well my friend and I had a good laugh at the "put the files on your pc, defrag, and then put them back on your xbox" as well. Granted it's true that that would do absolutely nothing, you don't need to attack him like that. Lets try to be big kids around here ;)
 

fixitman

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I believe that it's possible that full caches on the HDD could slow things down considerably. Personally, I'd ftp in and delete all files in e:/cache, x:, y:, and z:.
 

CRIBREK

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bvic01 said:
CRIBREK said:
TokenUser said:
CRIBREK said:
But first when you get all your files from your xbox to your pc, DEFRAG your PC Hard Drive. So it can at least put some files in order .
WTF? Learn how hard drives work. If you want to be assinine about this you would want to defrag the PC hard drive BEFORE ftping the files the Xbox so that they can occupy contiguous disc space - but even that is a stretch.
I bet you never even opened up a hard drive. I done took the disks out of the hard drive to put in another so I can get someones data back from a fryed drive. sectors, heads, cycles, and I don't know how hard drives work. HA
then you done been lyin out your ass. next you are gonna say you have a clean room to do it in right? yeah, fuk off!
In fact, Yes I had to be in a dust free area to replace the platters. Where I work we do a lot of fixing hard drives and getting data back.
 

naoneo

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CRIBREK said:
Learn how hard drives work Mother f**ker I am MCSE Certified are you
Yes, i am.
transfering the files to the pc and defraggng the pc, then transfering the files back to the hard drive would not do f**k all difference to the seek speed, the only possible way that would benefit the xbox's seek speed would be if the hard drive being used in the xbox was fragmented alot, and even then moving the files to the PC, formatting the xbox hard drive, then moving the files back to the xbox would be much more efficient.
contrary to your beleif, files do not "maintain" their fragments when transfered to one system from another, fragmentation can only occur on the source drive, lowering the seek and read speeds
moving files from one system to another would send the data over as complete data, and would NOT be fragmented on the other system.

long post cut short, the only way to maintain fragmentation is to image clone a hard drive, so yeah...
How much did you pay for that MCSE certificate?
 

shagga

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*Edited, not needed criticism*

As for the subject at hand in this post, if you wanted to rule the hard drive out of the equation of being the problem I would wipe it clean then put it in your PC and partition and format it. I would then download a utility from the HDD manufacturers website to test that the hard drive is working properly. You may also want to try making sure the IDE cable is ok or replace it just to test if there is a problem there.
 

CRIBREK

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I am sorry for being a ass. I just had my 7th back surgery and am in alot of pain. Just one of them f**ked up days.
 

yourM0M

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okay so did he take my advice in which everyone started fighting over.....where did the original poster go......i do really need to get certified now that you guys are talking about it.....ill add that to my new years resolutions.....lol
 

yourM0M

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IvanK said:
Makes no difference if your pc hard drive is fragmented or not.

Which specific games? Some xbox games buffer heavily to the hard drive (like the Halo games) and I've noticed that that behavior is the same on the backups; in effect I'm buffering from the hard drive to the hard drive. I have a fast drive with a big buffer, but on a slower drive I can see how this would perhaps cause the perception that things are running/loading slowly.

So... my question is what game and how much slower (as in a percent) are the backups loading versus the originals (which I'm sure you still have on hand)?

dont all hdd's stock or upgraded still run at the same buffer speed's.....
 
CRIBREK said:
I am sorry for being a ass. I just had my 7th back surgery and am in alot of pain. Just one of them f**ked up days.
So, sh*tty day, and I cop it? Can I have an cookie?

[ content deleted by me prior to posting - I had a paragraph that mixed flaming and technical content. posting it would be pointless - it has already been said ... MCSE is pretty much meaningless (get a degree if you ever want to be more than a tech), and defraging the files from an Xbox once they get to the PC is BS as well ... ]

Hope you recover from the back surgery and it makes a difference. I broke my pelvis, and fractured my T11/12 vertebra parachuting back in 92. Never needed surgery, but there are days when all I need to do it twist the wrong way and I am crippled for hours - surgery is just a matter of time.
 

Martin C

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Ok - this thread has gone seriously kaka.

Noone else is to post until the originator replies with at least another question. Anyone who does (apart from Admin and Support Staff of course) will just have their post deleted.

This is supposed to be a support thread and it's turning into handbags at dawn...


Martin
 

romracer

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Call of Juarez: The Cartel preview: This means juar


I, like many long-time fans I'd imagine, despaired a little bit when I read that Techland was taking their Western franchise in a more modern direction with Call of Juarez: The Cartel. It's a fear the developer is used to addressing.

"When we worked on the other Call of Juarez games, we always believed that there were themes of the Western that are still relevant today," said pitchman Blazej Krakowiak. "This is our chance to prove it."

To hear Krakowiak tell it, the studio isn't trying to drag the modern era into its Western, it's trying to bring the west into the modern era.
Call of Juarez: The Cartel

It's well over 100 years since the events of our last trip to Juarez, and the only noteworthy connection to that world is Ben McCall, a law enforcement agent descended from the McCall brothers of Bound in Blood.

Things have gotten bad in Los Angeles, where an attack on a law enforcement agency by a Mexican drug cartel has citizens calling for the military to take the fight to drug lords south of the border. To avoid this act of war, the U.S. is calling in some bad dudes from assorted law enforcement agencies: McCall, Eddie Guerra and Kim Evans.

The two-man, one-woman team is at the center of one of The Cartel's major hooks in the form of three-player, drop-in, drop-out co-op. This isn't just teammates blowing the enemy to hell though, these are three distinct roles that players can switch between at will.
That said, the desert setting of the hostage rescue could have been pulled straight from a John Ford western.
In one level I was shown, a kidnapped team member attempted to shoot his way to freedom while a second rushed to his aid. In another example, one member of McCall's team raced after drug runners in a high-speed vehicle chase while two others laid down covering fire from the car's windows.

The teamwork aspect manifests in more subtle ways too. Racing between cover spots (identified by a silouette of the player's character) automatically prompts AI teammates to lay down covering fire, a favor you're expected to return.

Not only will you and online friends have to really rely on one another to fulfill certain roles, but you'll have three different perspectives on the campaign, which could provide some compelling reasons for multiple playthroughs.

Now, as far as Techland's earlier promise to make the western modern, it's tough to tell at this point. The club stage my demo began in certainly looked great (it's generated by Chrome 5, the newest iteration of the dev's proprietary engine), but it had little of the grit might associate with the West. That said, the desert setting of the hostage rescue could have been pulled straight from a John Ford western.

I left The Cartel's PAX East demo unsure if this newest iteration will marry the heart of a western with a modern setting. If Techland makes good on their ambitious three-player concept, I doubt I'll remember to care.

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