Cant bring up cromwell screen, suggestions please!

[dregs]

Xbox 1.1, X3, Xapter, and Control panel w/LCD

So I got my gear to mod my xbox. I installed the xapter. And put the chip on (without the reset/eject switch hooked up), but with the external dip switches. I didn't have the diagrams in front of me for the d0 point but remembered about where it was.

I just used the process of elimination 3 times until I got the d0 point. The external switch gave the red X until I found the d0, and then a blue X (also bringing up the cromwell screen). sooo, I turn off the box. Then I decide to hook up my lcd, just to save time. Plug in my HD and DVD. I turn on my box and presto. no cromwell screen anymore. However, I did see my LCD light up for a moment or three.

I've taken off the LCD. removed the chip to make sure something didn't come loose as I was putting the HD/DVD back in. But I still can't get the Cromwell back up again. Also, if I hook the LCD up it doesnt light up whatsoever

I've tried many times to get it working again. My xapter has 3 blues and one red light. The X3 chip has the 3.3 blue light coming on. The big difference is that the external switch doesn't light up at all anymore (no red, no blue, no nothing).

Did I fry my chip (even though the 3.3 light comes on)? could something be loose? The wire going to my d0 looks like it is worn a bit from my constant reconnecting. Could it not be getting a secure connection even though the xapter light is red. Was it a bad idea hooking up the LCD, could that have been part of the problem. Argh.. and why doesnt the external switch work anymore..

Now when I boot I get 3 blue and a red on the xapter. 3.3v blue lighting on the x3, but the external switch doesnt light up at all. It shows the xbox flubber then error 7 when no HD/DVD plugged in. works fine with everything plugged in.

If anyone has suggestions I would greatly appreciate anything...

Thanks in advance.

 

[CoHPhasor]

How about starting here. http://www.teamxecuter.com/x3/tutorials/x3pin1015.htm
I KNOW that you think the process of elimination is ok, but let's be honest here, nothing good comes of guessing in electronics.

Check all those soldering connections, it might be that one is simply a cold solder joint.

 

[Rookio]

Do you mean to say that Executer didn't work out which points to solder the X3 to by just trying every single point on the motherboard, each one in turn???!?!?!?Well i'll be buggered

 

[g$$$]

Again.....The Horror

 

[dregs]

Please read the original post before flaming.

Im using the xapter. Its a solderless install..

the process of elimination was just sticking the wire in the right spot for the d0. I tried it in two holes before getting it right. and it did boot up to the cromwell screen after that. but when I powered down to install the hd&dvd it would never load up anymore, and since the external X adapter (not the xapter) does not seem to function anymore

Why doesnt the external adapter work anymore. It should be glowing red if something is lose right?

true help please

 

[Rookio]

dregs, your right. I shouldn't Flame, but it was only a lighthearted attempt at humour.


Seriously now, You are missing the 5V Led on your X3. I've never used a xapter myself, so somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you still should have both blue led's on your X3 working.

Also just to make sure you are using a Xapt3r and not a xapter right? there is a difference.

The external adapter your talking about i'm guessing is your switch. The Red X logo means chip is disabled. Blue means enabled. If it's not working at all then you have a prob.

Assuming you are using the correct xapt3r (X3 type) then it may have been a short or pinched wires when putting the rest of your hardware back in. Check all cables and check your d0 wire again to make sure it's a good fit.


*EDIT* O.k. I switched my brain on and re-read your original post... Xapter has 3 blues & one red. Of course it is a Xapt3r... Sorry for doubting

 

[dregs]

Ive tried gettin everthing to work and it just refuses to. I tried tightening the xapter, once I did get the 5v to come on, but the 3.3v wouldnt come on. i tried tightening more and ended up wrecking the xapter screw.

so I decided to go wander around korea (which is what I didnt want to do) and buy the soldering tools. today I solder everything together hoping that the xapter was the problem, and presto. only the 3.3v light comes on again, with no lights on the external X3 switch...

The chip must be damaged. Or could the d0 point be the problem on my board? It shouldnt be the d0 since Ive tried the d0 point on the top side and also tried the d0 on the back by soldering...

maybe Ill tryto resolder the whole thing again tonite.. but I did do a clean job. and the fact that only the 3.3 light goes on makes me think that theres a problem.. but its strange that the 5v light came on that once, and the 3.3 didnt..

*sigh*

 

[Rookio]

It won't be your D0, that would not stop your 5V light from coming on.
Disconnect your external switch for now, thats an optional extra which you can plug in later after you've finished trouble shooting your X3. You have an X3CE?
So you have got 1 blue led (3.3V) and is your flash protect led working?

Sorry i'm running short on ideas, other than checking all your solder points again

You may want to consider that poking the D0 wire in various holes while the xbox was running could have caused some damge. Could have caused a short or blown a fuse on the mobo or anything. Like CoHPhaser said, It's not a real good idea to guess while your working on circuit boards.

Can you get your hands on another Xbox to do some tests on your chip? A mates or something?

 

[dregs]

Well see the poking in the d0 holes was only done twice, and I was getting the external adapterworking (showing a red X), while I was doing that. THen I did get it in the right d0 point and it showed the cromwell screen on the tv..

then when I hooked up the x3 LCD, and the dvd&hd I booted.. saw the LCD light up, flicker, then cut out, and nothing on happening with the chip other than an error7 on the screen. and my external adapter doesnt work at all.

I got rid of the xapt3r, soldered everything, and still the same deal. nothing on the external adapter and only the 3.3v lights up.

 

[Rookio]

have you checked for shorts on your LCD? I've seen people with that problem, so have a look. Have you removed the LCD now?

Error 7 is a HDD timeout. Is it the original HD? Do you get error 7 with chip enabled or disabled?

Don't worry about that for now, but think on it. you need to get your 5V led working. Resolder pin 6 and make sure it's o.k. Then post back

 

[dregs]

have you checked for shorts on your LCD? I've seen people with that problem, so have a look. Have you removed the LCD now?
> have had the LCD disconnected ever since the chip stopped working

Error 7 is a HDD timeout. Is it the original HD? Do you get error 7 with chip enabled or disabled?
> original hd. get the error with/without chip as long as the hd/dvd are out.

Don't worry about that for now, but think on it. you need to get your 5V led working. Resolder pin 6 and make sure it's o.k. Then post back
> the LED lit up for a second when I really pushed the chip down, but then the 3.3v didn't light up. So I tried tightening the xapt3r. never seemed to come on again. I've since removed the xapt3r. soldered the chip. and still only the 3.3 comes on.

 

[CoHPhasor]

I know it's not this simple,.... but what ver Xbox do you have?
I ask b/c the 5V power has to come from an external connection on a 1.6 or 1.6b box.

Error 7 is easily corrected b/c you already know what the problem is, the Xbox NEEDS the HD and DVD plugged in!
If you need to have it apart fine, just be careful and have them plugged in.

 

[Rookio]

Yup, Cophasor is right about the harddrive. You will always get the error 7 when your Hdd is not connected. (unless you have another error that registers first, of course)
Dregs has a 1.1 xbox, so i'm not sure about that 5v. Somethings wierd. Did you resolder pin 6 like i suggested, just want to make sure

 

[CoHPhasor]

see what happens Rookio,...u sit here like a shark in the water pouncing on all these help requests, and u forget which one is which! =-\

 

[Rookio]

I know the feeling...
I think people might be starting to read a bit more of their tutorials... we might be out of a hobby soon!!