Concering Coolruner

[tysman]

I found out the top left jacks are for DVD drive, the red and black wires are for power, and the colored wires I heard you solder them to motherboard. I may be wrong

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They made a new version of it check out the picture, the dvd drive jacks are definitely on the left along with the power (Top Left)you may be right about the other ones on the right they are for programming

 

[Martin C]

(Top Left)you may be right about the other ones on the right they are for programming
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Lol ya think?

Look at the labels: TMS TCK TDI TDO etc.

These are JTAG points for programming. I've already built a cable for programming CPLDs.

 

[tysman]

OK thanks for clearing that up, um any chance of a cable that can go to usb I have a laptop?

 

[jtag360.nl]

OK thanks for clearing that up, um any chance of a cable that can go to usb I have a laptop?

There are more topics here about the reset glitch hack.

If you read these then you have the answer to your question.

 

[tysman]

OK thanks for all the info.

 

[xtremepcs]

no problem

 

[powerdemon292]

Well its not that i havent read up on the coolrunner, its that its kinda hard atm.. being as it hasnt been released.. i just keep feeling that we are gonna see xell every time we load our xbox, but as thats doubtful.. i just was curious as from a software point of view i dont see y the coolrunner would be needed after the glitch is done and over, i mean u can program you mac address on your nand, and mac are in general roms meaning its permanent... so in that point of view (because u cant update hardware... well the hardware itself) only software but with this hack u can erase the nand completely am i correct? i just dont see the reason as to y the coolrunner is needed after hack is done if u can post a link to where u are finding your information plz it would be appreciated.. sorry if i have voided any forum rules.. i just wish to learn

 

[tysman]

I don't think you can erase the Nand completely, why would you anyway. Just replace code on the Nand, like you do using the Nand X. The Coolrunner is software update able for things like FSD and XEX Menu, Custom Dashboards, and game iso's playing from usb drive. Also stability improvements

 

[Martin C]

Well its not that i havent read up on the coolrunner, its that its kinda hard atm.. being as it hasnt been released.. i just keep feeling that we are gonna see xell every time we load our xbox, but as thats doubtful.. i just was curious as from a software point of view i dont see y the coolrunner would be needed after the glitch is done and over, i mean u can program you mac address on your nand, and mac are in general roms meaning its permanent... so in that point of view (because u cant update hardware... well the hardware itself) only software but with this hack u can erase the nand completely am i correct? i just dont see the reason as to y the coolrunner is needed after hack is done if u can post a link to where u are finding your information plz it would be appreciated.. sorry if i have voided any forum rules.. i just wish to learn

Do you actually know what this device does?

By your reply I would guess not.

 

[jtag360.nl]

Well its not that i havent read up on the coolrunner, its that its kinda hard atm.. being as it hasnt been released.. i just keep feeling that we are gonna see xell every time we load our xbox, but as thats doubtful.. i just was curious as from a software point of view i dont see y the coolrunner would be needed after the glitch is done and over, i mean u can program you mac address on your nand, and mac are in general roms meaning its permanent... so in that point of view (because u cant update hardware... well the hardware itself) only software but with this hack u can erase the nand completely am i correct? i just dont see the reason as to y the coolrunner is needed after hack is done if u can post a link to where u are finding your information plz it would be appreciated.. sorry if i have voided any forum rules.. i just wish to learn

If you realy want to learn, then do a lot off searching.

There is realy more than enough to find here, and google.

I give you a hint........time pulses.

 

[powerdemon292]

Yes of course i understand the concept of it... i think everyone does, why would i even ask the concept including mac addresses if i didnt. i understand the programmer thats pretty easy to take in. so i would appreciate not being asked that, but yes ok, i have done alot of reading thing is its skeptical, many sources say this and this when y not just go to the producer, and im 17 N+, working on A+ certification, so much of what u say i will digest with ease

 

[powerdemon292]

To add a note i just realized that no specific homebrew has been designed for this yet in terms of dashboard, only xell.. so i thought this would help u guys answer my question, bc i was one of they people wondering if freeboot could be run... after U get xell in there and out your cpu is good everything is fine, THEN u have your dash booted up.. is the coolrunner necessary... far as i see i can only seeing the actual Jtag points being used (as always) but if they console can now run homebrew (with dash) and run unsigned code.. the coolrunner would not be needed? bc the original use for it was to run an unsigned cd and exploit the kernel and such.. ? ive never jtagged specifically... more flashing and just a hell of a job to find a jtag, ive never actually bought a modchip, but i have a 512jasper... and i dont feel like lpt the whole thing (1.5kB max xfer rate) i did the probe v3 custom.. even though thats not real hard to begin with.. but i decided $10 Cpld then $5 for resistors and such... OR 5 extra bucks to a great cause? ya ill support TX on this.. and the Nand-x ... win

 

[Goldensavage]

I am by no means any sort of expert on JTAG and Coolruner.

But from what i have been reading and noting from other peoples comments, is that the coolrunner is permanent because it is the board that send a pulse to the 360 board, to stop it from running the original dashboard, at the specific time so, xell can be loaded and then unsigned code can be used.

Remove the coolrunner, and you are just back to the basic board, no pulse or nothing interrupting the main start-up of the 360

That is why people have been displaying a dual boot method, where i presume that the coolrunner is bypassed and the original dash is run. Switch it over and the xell boots up.

That's the way i see it in layman's terms. No coolrunner, no pulse sent at the correct timing to interupt the code.

Martin C will probably flay me alive, for getting most of it wrong, but hey, like i said i am no JTAG or Glitch expert.

 

[tysman]

Sounds like this pulse thing might hurt the motherboard, please explain better how the pulse works

 

[sk8boy204]

I was thinking the same way Goldensavage is for the whole dual boot thing goes.

 

[powerdemon292]

This is a comment off of a YT video on GliGli fat xbox hack... and i quote "You can't boot any games *AS OF YET* off the HDD and there will not be a rebooter it will be a *Booter* because it has no reason to reboot when it has exploited as early in the boot of the system as it does." well so i assume it means if u want a rebooter that is possible just if u want a booter, then you can do much more and thats where the coolrunner is still necessary. but if not then it can be discarded, but ive another question, what is a rebooter and then booter differences? and btw i hope TX will clarify all of this bc it is stressing me out :'( lol

 

[mackdaddy]

I am by no means any sort of expert on JTAG and Coolruner.

But from what i have been reading and noting from other peoples comments, is that the coolrunner is permanent because it is the board that send a pulse to the 360 board, to stop it from running the original dashboard, at the specific time so, xell can be loaded and then unsigned code can be used.

Remove the coolrunner, and you are just back to the basic board, no pulse or nothing interrupting the main start-up of the 360

That is why people have been displaying a dual boot method, where i presume that the coolrunner is bypassed and the original dash is run. Switch it over and the xell boots up.

That's the way i see it in layman's terms. No coolrunner, no pulse sent at the correct timing to interupt the code.

Martin C will probably flay me alive, for getting most of it wrong, but hey, like i said i am no JTAG or Glitch expert.

But you can`t just remove the wires and expect it too boot too the xbox dashboard cause it won`t!Why because you have the xell code written too your nand.

So if you want dual boot you need to flash xell to the cygnos mod chip which is your second nand then hook up your coolrunner wires and there you have it a dual boot

 

[Martin C]

Yes of course i understand the concept of it... i think everyone does, why would i even ask the concept including mac addresses if i didnt. i understand the programmer thats pretty easy to take in. so i would appreciate not being asked that, but yes ok, i have done alot of reading thing is its skeptical, many sources say this and this when y not just go to the producer, and im 17 N+, working on A+ certification, so much of what u say i will digest with ease

Is A+ supposed to impress?

Seriously, it's ABC of computers.

" i dont see y the coolrunner would be needed after the glitch is done and over, i mean u can program you mac address on your nand, and mac are in general roms meaning its permanent... so in that point of view (because u cant update hardware... well the hardware itself) only software but with this hack u can erase the nand completely am i correct? i just dont see the reason as to y the coolrunner is needed after hack is done"

THIS tells me you haven't a clue 'y' it's needed.

There's a technical explaination in the Reset Glitch Hack which I urge you to read. Someone of your intellect should have zero problems digesting it.....:rolleyes2:

 

[powerdemon292]

OMFG ive read the techinal read out... Everyone has, yet this is why we have forums to discuss our thoughts... mac addresses are burned into ROMS surely u can understand that??? yet on the xbox the mac address is interchangable, the point i make there is that its part of the eeprom, same as the nand and patches and system updates, yes the coolrunner sends a pulse i KNOW, no need to belittle every person who asks a question.. yet in so many ways bc u are vip, feel that u can not provide the legitmate information to answer my question... it was A THEORY i DO not mind including the glitcher in my xbox... but i was curious to note that after the CPU key was obtained and such it could be reverted to AN OLD jtag type hack FB or XBR? bc the nand is completely rewritable (note: MAC address point)

-Austin

p.s. A+ is good... yet N+.. CCNA worth respect

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Besides that fact "is A+ suppose to impress" .. i dont serve to impress a person i wont meet in my life, 1 uping people is not my everyday routine, i was merely stating that im not wasting your time

Good enough?

 

[Goldensavage]

But you can`t just remove the wires and expect it too boot too the xbox dashboard cause it won`t!Why because you have the xell code written too your nand.

So if you want dual boot you need to flash xell to the cygnos mod chip which is your second nand then hook up your coolrunner wires and there you have it a dual boot

Thanks for that, as i said i am no JTAG Expert.

So it's two boards inside, switching between the 2.