GENERAL Corona v1 wont boot stock or rgh nand

[babovand]

Hello guys.

I've been using CR3 lite + DemoN on my console for about 2 months now without a problem.
Today when i try to boot the console, the ROL came on an the fans went to full speed instantly, no glitch sound, same on stock nand.
Then after turning it on and off a couple of times, the xbox wont even start, no ROL, no glitch, even on stock nand.

I unplugged my xbox for 15 mins, same results, then after a couple min it booted just fine! and glitched.
After that the same issue occurred again.

Also, no RRoD's, not even once.

My Xbox is currently assembled, I've pictures of my cr3 lite here.
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/show...help-CR3-Lite-sometimes-glitch-sometimes-dont

If this is a soldering issue I will provide pictures of the DemoN

EDIT: at some points, The xbox starts the glitch, fans go up full speed, then lowers itself, i hear glitch sound, then after glitch sound full fan speed, and then again another glitch sound. Before, the fans did not change speed.

 

[Martin C]

Increase in fan speed - you mean you hear a 'tick-tick-tick' which accompanies the fans getting faster?

That's CPU_RST. You need to relocate the wire.

 

[babovand]

Increase in fan speed - you mean you hear a 'tick-tick-tick' which accompanies the fans getting faster?

That's CPU_RST. You need to relocate the wire.

Nope no tick tick sound before or after, as soon as i power on the Xbox, the fans go fullspeed, at that point the glitch nand is selected, when I switch to stock nand, i hear the power on sound but no power, and no lights on the ROL, if i then after that switch back to glitch nand, i get the same result as the stock nand, no power up, no fans, no ROL

 

[Martin C]

Pics and logs are needed then.

The only reason it would do this is if you have a bad write to your NAND and there's no SMC config.

Is this anything to do with your broker USB connector?

 

[babovand]

Pics and logs are needed then.
Is this anything to do with your broker USB connector?

No, I also thought it could be some nand problem, but I did'nt get a chance to either read or write anything as I was clumsy and hit my laptop before i had the chance to do it. I've not flashed the nand since the Xebuild released support for 16203 update. Yesterday it worked perfectly fine.

Just out of curiosity, does the "location" of the cpu_rst wire affect how the stock nand boots? even if I've switched to stock nand? Since I've the same issues on when switching to stock nand.
I cannot post pictures of all the QSB points since the Demon is on top, will return with pictures.

Also I've never ever written anything to the stock nand, only read it successfully in the past.

Just throwing some ideas, could it be some kind of overheating? I've set my target temps on the glitch nand to 65 celcius, FSD3 showed 63-65 CPU/GPU degrees and

Edit: (did not finish sentence) fans were normal, slow speed and sometimes a slighty speedup during games, cool air.

 

[Martin C]

The CPU_RST wire can affect stock NANDs, yes of course. Interference can stop the console attempting to boot and eventually you'd get a red dot.

If the NAND is 100% stock and you've never written to it, you have an issue elsewhere.

 

[Antalpromille]

this happened to me on a falcon, i found that it i disconnected the ROL-point on CR it would glitch and when i touched the wire at the ROL-point it just turned fans to max.

 

[babovand]

this happened to me on a falcon, i found that it i disconnected the ROL-point on CR it would glitch and when i touched the wire at the ROL-point it just turned fans to max.

Martin C: Yes its 100%, with the DemoN, on a fresh console, I've had no reason to write anything on the Xbox Nand, and i've not done so by mistake either judging by my logs.

Could you explain this in more detail and how to fix? ROL-point, were is is e.t.c. This makes sense because my Xbox have been working fine and this problem I've is not permanent, I can still manage to boot both glitch/stock, but on some boots I get the problem and no glitches and no stock boot.

One time when I was done soldering the CR3, I turned the Xbox on with the ROL-board (with power button e.t.c) unplugged, had totally forgotten about it, the fans went full speed i assume (like my problem) instantly, as soon as i realised I turned the Xbox off.

I do not know what a ROL-point looks like or where it is, but the "symptoms" are they same so this makes some sense that the problem is connected to ROL somehow.

You dont mean the ribbon cable do you?

EDIT: I've not solderd the sync wire to/from the DemoN, as I've read it is not required and I did'nt need/want it.

 

[Antalpromille]

the ROL-point on your CR, i thought you used it for sonus as part of your description was "no glitch sound".

 

[babovand]

Nope, Do not own or have a sonus installed in my system, the glitch sound im talking about comes from the CR3 when running coronas, Normal for coronas something to the with the 48Mhz Oscillator activated or something, not sure.

 

[Antalpromille]

ah i see, then im defenitly with Martin about CPU_RST location.

 

[babovand]

Bumping my own thread with a new but similar problem.
Since two days ago my Xbox is giving my again similar problems.
Again I've never written anything to the stock NAND, my Demon via USB to PC is able to read both stock and Demon NAND 100% fine, the read is fast and takes between 18-22 seconds, writing to Demon is also fast 100% checked and compared NANDs.
I've gotten an RRoD once on stock NAND, I think it was 0021 or 0031 something similar, but it has since then booted a 1000 times after that RRoD both stock and Demon NAND.
Anyway this time I will provide pictures, sorry I can't post under the QSB then I need to desolder anything, I've also not tested the joints with a multimeter also the Demon pic is very bad quality and from a bad angle, if you guys need any close-ups I'll open up the Xbox.

Demon Install
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6b5365330434420

CPU_RST
http://www.imagebam.com/image/4e6873330434435

Additional symptoms:
My Xbox wont boot either stock or Demon NAND, After some time, it will tough and glitches without problems. Sometimes when I try to boot it up, the fans go full speed and as soon as it starts glitching the fans go normal speed. In current state i only hear the boot "click" sound when trying to start the Xbox. Another note, sometimes I hear the Xbox trying to start it self up, I can hear the "Click" sound even though I'm not near the Xbox or any controllers.

Thanks

 

[Antalpromille]

Bumping my own thread with a new but similar problem.
Since two days ago my xbox is giving my again similar problems.
Again I've never written anything to the stock NAND, my Demon via USB to PC is able to read both stock and demon NAND 100% fine. I've gotten an RRoD once on stock NAND, I think it was 0021 or 0031 something similar, but it has since then booted a 1000 times before both stock and demon nand.
Anyway this time I will provide pictures, sorry I can't post under the QSB then I need to desolder anything, I've also not tested the joints with a multimeter also the demon pic is very bad quality and from a bad angle, if you guys need any close-ups I'll open up the xbox.

Demon Install
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6b5365330434420

CPU_RST
http://www.imagebam.com/image/4e6873330434435

Additional symptoms:
My Xbox wont boot either stock or demon nand, After some time, it will tough and glitches without problems. Sometimes when I try to boot it up, the fans go full speed and as soon as it starts glitching the fans go normal speed. In current state i only hear the boot "click" sound when trying to start the Xbox. Another note, sometimes I hear the Xbox trying to start it self up, I can hear the "Click" sound even though I'm not near the Xbox or any controllers.

Thanks

use the template and post pictures of the whole install, not just the DemoN.

 

[babovand]

in this thread there is a install of my CR3 lite with a problem I had with it before. Thats my full install, if anymore pictures are needed I'll provide them, Note I've since then later down in the post resolderd and made sure no pcb or trace was damaged on the POST_OUT (yellow cable)

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99650

 

[babovand]

TX Product(s) used: Demon, Demon QSB for corona, CR3 Lite
Console Type: Corona V1
NAND size: 16 (I think, probably)
Dashboard version: 2.0.16747.0
CB version: Don't know, newest I guess since I'm using latest dash
Screenshot of NAND details from J-Runner:
(attach an image to your post)
J-Runner log:

Current: XBOX
Switching to DemoN
Current: DemoN
Switching to XBOX
Reading Nand to C:\Users\Babo\Desktop\Xbox\J-Runner\output\nanddump1.bin
XBOX360
Hardware   : Demon Slim
Firmware   : 1.4
Flash ID   : 0x7320 ST Micro (16MiB - Small block)
Flash Size : 0x400 blocks of 0x4200 bytes
Reading Nand
Done!
in 0:19 min:sec

Reading Nand to C:\Users\Babo\Desktop\Xbox\J-Runner\output\nanddump2.bin
Initializing nanddump1.bin..
Corona
Nand Initialization Finished
Reading Nand
Done!
in 0:19 min:sec

Comparing...
Nands are the same
Current: XBOX
Switching to DemoN
Reading Nand to C:\Users\Babo\Desktop\Xbox\J-Runner\output\nanddump1.bin
DEMON
Hardware   : Demon Slim
Firmware   : 1.4
Flash ID   : 0x73AD Hynix (16MiB - Small block)
Flash Size : 0x400 blocks of 0x4200 bytes
Reading Nand
Done!
in 0:21 min:sec

Reading Nand to C:\Users\Babo\Desktop\Xbox\J-Runner\output\nanddump2.bin
Initializing nanddump1.bin..
Corona
Nand Initialization Finished
Reading Nand
Done!
in 0:19 min:sec

Comparing...
Nands are the same

Image of Coolrunner: Previous posts
Images of close-up soldering to motherboard: previous posts

 

[ablegepu]

that j-runner log is useless all it shows is you read the xbox nand then read the demon nand you need to find the one where you read the xbox nand, created ecc, wrote ecc to demon, then created xebuild image, and finally wrote xebuild image to demon. and load your original nanddump1.bin into source in j-runner then post a screen shot of j-runner

 

[Antalpromille]

Take your Xbox apart and take new pictures, pictures that shows how the install looks today and not how it looked a few months before you decided to try a demon install even though your not a pro and obviously lacks the skills needed for this.

 

[babovand]

that j-runner log is useless all it shows is you read the xbox nand then read the demon nand you need to find the one where you read the xbox nand, created ecc, wrote ecc to demon, then created xebuild image, and finally wrote xebuild image to demon. and load your original nanddump1.bin into source in j-runner then post a screen shot of j-runner

Well since I've not written anything to the stock nand and is 100% original, the stock NAND should boot.

Take your Xbox apart and take new pictures, pictures that shows how the install looks today and not how it looked a few months before you decided to try a demon install even though your not a pro and obviously lacks the skills needed for this.

I will. Just for clarification I've solderd the CR3 lite and Demon at the same time. This was 2013 February, I've since then used both stock NAND and demon NAND, with great glitch times. proof of this is here
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134297

Next post will be pictures. Thanks so far

EDIT: Took out the power cord, put it back in, now the Xbox boots both NANDs without problems. 1-5 glitches Max, will still post pictures later today

 

[babovand]

Back Again

My Xbox stopped booting completely for about a month ago, have been collecting dust since then.
Anyway here is my install in pictures as of today, I also have checked the joints with a multimeter, I can check specifics if you guys would be nice and point in the right direction.

I've not touched the solder i.e joints for over a year. This went from working to broke.

Again, Im repeating this for clarification, I installed the Coolrunner and Demon AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME DAY, in Feb 2013.
It has been working fine except for 3 months now. Since June. When the current issue as described in above posts, and video in this post.
As I installed the Demon on the very first day. I've had NO REASON to touch the Xbox 360 NAND, I've not written anything to it at any point, Virgin Xbox NAND. I've however read the Xbox NAND in order to create an RGH image for my Demon NAND.

Also. Im able to currently as of today and now. Read the Xbox Nand, and R/W to Demon Nand






Here is a video of what I'm trying to explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJAt_dLWDos

 

[brent1wer]

nand wires are loose or something. same thing happened to me on my qsb i fixed the soldering and it worked perfect