Curious about the Xenium "OS"

[Jzor]

I was just trying to figure out exactly what features there are in this so called "OS" that set it aside from other BIOS's....

Because it has SMB and Telnet, does that make it an OS?

What about this piece of software (or firmware) makes this an OS?

Perhaps some of you who have researched it can elighten me as to how it is in any way an advancement over config live. Cuz i'm just confused right now about what you can actually accomplish with an "OS" that you cant accomplish in a BIOS configuration tool.

EDIT. i know a little off topic for the X3 GD section.

 

[bigblobber]

http://www.atis.org/tg2k/_operating_system.html

operating system: An integrated collection of routines that service the sequencing and processing of programs by a computer. Note: An operating system may provide many services, such as resource allocation, scheduling, input / output control, and data management. Although operating systems are predominantly software, partial or complete hardware implementations may be made in the form of firmware.

 

[Xecuter]

its all marketing bullshit. we could call ours an OS - but at the end of the day its a hacked bios - that happens to do all the other sh*t that you want from a bios.

we're hackers - we dont pretend to be marketing fags

 

[gamersha794]

it's basically a bios that can't run unsigned code............like a car with a kickass stereo bought at circut city but no engine, as opposed to a engine with a kickass stereo you bought off the guy who "found" it.

 

[TokenUser]

it's basically a bios that can't run unsigned code............like a car with a kickass stereo bought at circut city but no engine, as opposed to a engine with a kickass stereo you bought off the guy who "found" it.

If you can "find" me a 72 big block ragtop Corvette, I'd appreciate it don't care about colour or interior - it'll be media off body restored with a new interior anyway ...

 

[Jzor]

Ahh, I kinda figured it was more marketing BS than an actual "operating system". In what little searching I did, I could find nothing that sat it aside from any other flashable bios that would warrant it being called an OS above configlive being called a bios configuration tool.

Browsing their forums i saw someone freak out because a guy called x3cl an OS. "Blah blah blah, x3cl is not an OS RAWR!. It is a bios configuration tool. Xenium OS is the only OS RAWR! blah blah blah."

I think it's funny how a marketing team uses the term OS to pry in customers that are of a somewhat less degree of technical intelligence. What else would calling it an OS accomplish other than masking its uselessness to the uninformed.

 

[TokenUser]

Reality is that Xenium is little more than a bootloader - with some Linux based management utilities. The X3 BIOS could also be called a bootloader - with bios style management utilities ... and an FTP server. Hmm, des that in fact make it an OS, since it DOES have a level of hardware and file management?
Reality is - you buy a Xenium, yes saying it has a Linux based OS onboard is nice, but the minute you want to play a game, you have to load up someone else's BIOS anyway (and who do they turn to for that? it would be interesting to know how many Xeniums are running the X2 bios).
Yes, it is nice to have Linux running on your Xbox for bragging rights, but realistically, if I want to run Linux, I'll use a "real" computer, not a game console. I don't play games on my PC, so why would I want to run applications on my game console
(not entirely true, but you get the point).

 

[nospmohtkcin]

is there anyway to have it so that xecuter bios" will only work on xecuter chips???

 

[manu_xl]

already accomplished

x3 bios only works on x3 chips

 

[1911Wolf]

And the so-called OS is buggier than any Windows version. I have seen so many topics over at X-S about a corrupt OS leading the user to open their Xbox and toggle the on-chip switch to recovery mode.

 

[Xecuter]

Ahh, I kinda figured it was more marketing BS than an actual "operating system". In what little searching I did, I could find nothing that sat it aside from any other flashable bios that would warrant it being called an OS above configlive being called a bios configuration tool.

Browsing their forums i saw someone freak out because a guy called x3cl an OS. "Blah blah blah, x3cl is not an OS RAWR!. It is a bios configuration tool. Xenium OS is the only OS RAWR! blah blah blah."

I think it's funny how a marketing team uses the term OS to pry in customers that are of a somewhat less degree of technical intelligence. What else would calling it an OS accomplish other than masking its uselessness to the uninformed.

"Blah blah blah, Xenium OS cannot do sh*t RAWR!. It is a legal bios that cant play your games or hack your Xbox. X3CL is the only REAL USEFUL and SELF CONFIGURABLE hacked bios RAWR! blah blah blah."

LOL

 

[IvanK]

And the so-called OS is buggier than any Windows version. I have seen so many topics over at X-S about a corrupt OS leading the user to open their Xbox and toggle the on-chip switch to recovery mode.

What good is a "software-based" chip if you have to open your case to fix your chip after borking a flash on the 4th day of Christmas? You go to the Xenium forums on xbox-scene and they're all grooming themselves like cats because their chips are the *easiest* to use. I guess maybe I have a different perspective, but I wouldn't brag about being too stupid to use a different chip, and in fact I would say that the X3 is easier to use and recover because bluntly you need only ONE piece of software.

Not that I'm bragging about having the easiest to use chip....

"Blah blah blah, Xenium OS cannot do sh*t RAWR!. It is a legal bios that cant play your games or hack your Xbox. X3CL is the only REAL USEFUL and SELF CONFIGURABLE hacked bios RAWR! blah blah blah."

 

[snyper1982]

You have to admit its nice selecting the bank you want to flash your bios to without messing with any switches. The xenium OS has some other nice features like the HD upgrade wizzard. The "Xenium OS" name itself may be marketing bullshit, but it is far from useless.

Why does everything xenium get bashed here? Oh well, guess I am fighting a losing fight by trying to have people act a little more mature.

 

[TokenUser]

You have to admit its nice selecting the bank you want to flash your bios to without messing with any switches.

Yes it is --- and it is a feature that the X3 has. You'd know that if you owned one


You do know that the use of the external switch plate is optional right? You can do everything you need to do from the Config Live BIOS screens.

 

[Xecuter]

You have to admit its nice selecting the bank you want to flash your bios to without messing with any switches. The xenium OS has some other nice features like the HD upgrade wizzard. The "Xenium OS" name itself may be marketing bullshit, but it is far from useless.

Why does everything xenium get bashed here? Oh well, guess I am fighting a losing fight by trying to have people act a little more mature.

erm if you are going to say ANYTHING about a product have some knowledge about what you are saying

you do know that you dont ever need switches with the X3 also yes ? we give you OPTIONAL EXTRAS cus some people like the switches - have you even looked at all the options on X3 Config Live ? I guess not

its useless cus you NEED an xecuter or evox bios to actually do anything useful. where they bash us in public we do it jokingly in private

i notice you didnt reply to my post about you being a little suspicious and contradictory

 

[IvanK]

Probably my biggest beef is that the competition *knows* what features X3CL has; part of being successful in business is knowing what functional gaps exist between your product and the competition. Yet...they still push out a lot of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt for the uninitiated) saying "you have to flash using a burnt disc" and "you have to go trolling through irc to get what you need and that's *dangerous*" or "this is the only LEGAL modding solution."

Basically, it's all fairly dishonest and disingenuous and noobs aren't going to know any better, so they buy into the hype and they buy an inferior product and they learn that to do anything interesting they *do* have to go to irc and since their reasons for modding aren't probably fair-use motivated they *will* have to use an illegal piece of software to do what they want.

Say what you will... the casual and intentional misinformation/misrepresentation does a lot more damage to the scene than a few of use here having a little fun poking holes in their releases and products at their expense.

 

[snyper1982]

I came on here looking for info about the chip. I said that in the other thread. I was under the impression that you had to have the switch to flash the BIOS. I guess I was wrong, I have looked documentation about the X3CL, but came up empty handed. I am happy to know that the X3 has that option as well, because i thought it would be kinda stupid to be forced to use the switches, which was my biggest complaint.

I have been reading around, and even peolpe who own it, never said anything about being able to select the bank in the X3CL.

 

[mitpat]

^ yeah it took them like 8 months to make a "stable OS" though thats probably bullocks

 

[IvanK]

Death to Team Xodus's GAY carols

I think you got your wish, buddy. All quiet on the Western front.

 

[Jzor]

Rawr!