Demon BB conversion on BB console Will not boot Xell

GModz Tuts

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So I got my Demon BB a while back finally, installed it, and my CR had a pulled pad from a previous attempt so I waited it out and got a New Rev. C and installed it.

Upgraded my Demon's FW, to 1.04, and when I read my nand My first 2 dumps always match. And it reads they are bb dumps. But when I read/ write them to the demon it says its a SB demon? All my soldering is perfect, I Will post pictures as soon as my camera charges. But thats not what Im worried about. What im worried about is how its reading as a SB Demon when its been converted to a BB demon. Heres a log:

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Monday, March 11, 2013 9:58:04 PM

J-Runner v0.2 Beta (288) Started


WARNING! - Your selected working directory already contains files!
You can view these files by using 'Show Working Folder' Button


Checking Files
Finished Checking Files
Initializing Orig_Nand_Demon_001.bin..
Nand Initialization Finished
XBOX360
Hardware : Demon Phat
Firmware : 1.4
Flash ID : 0xDCAD Hynix (512MiB - Big block)
Flash Size : 0x1000 blocks of 0x21000 bytes
Invalid Blocks : 0x0 0x1 0x2 0x3 0x4 0x5 0x6 0x7 0x8 0x9 0x352 0x744 0x83E 0x83F 0xCAB 0xEB9
Writing Nand
Done!
in 12:35 min:sec

Success
Success
Current: XBOX
Switching to DemoN
Success
Initializing Orig_Nand_Demon_001.bin..
Nand Initialization Finished
DEMON
Hardware : Demon Phat
Firmware : 1.4
Flash ID : 0x73AD Hynix (16MiB - Small block)
Flash Size : 0x400 blocks of 0x4200 bytes
Writing Nand
Done!
in 0:45 min:sec

Success
Success
Current: DemoN
Switching to XBOX
Success
* unpacking flash image, ....
Spare Data found, will remove.
Removed
* found decrypted CD
* found XeLL binary, must be linked to 0x1c000000
* we found the following parts:
SMC: 2.3
CB_A: 6753
CB_B: 6753
CD (image): 6753
CD (decrypted): 9452
* checking required versions...
ok
* patching SMC...
Patching Jasper version 2.3 SMC at offset 0x12BA
* Replacing CD...

* XOR HACK NEEDED FOR CB 6753
* patching CB_B...
patchset for 6752 found, 4 patch(es)
* Applying XOR Hack to CB_B 6753
*** Re-encrypting CB_B with xor keystream
*** Fixing entrypoint
* Replacing CB_A 6753 with 6752
* encrypting CB...
* constructing new image...
* base size: 70000
* No separate recovery Xell available!
* Flash Layout:
0x0..0x1FF (0x200 bytes) Header
0x200..0xFFF (0xE00 bytes) Padding
0x1000..0x3FFF (0x3000 bytes) SMC
0x4000..0x7FFF (0x4000 bytes) Keyvault
0x8000..0x9ABF (0x1AC0 bytes) CB_A 6752
0x9AC0..0x1317F (0x96C0 bytes) CB_B 6752
0x13180..0x1917F (0x6000 bytes) CD 9452
0x19180..0xBFFFF (0xA6E80 bytes) Padding
0xC0000..0xFFFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (backup)
0x100000..0x13FFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (main)
* Encoding ECC...Done!
------------- Written into output\image_00000000.ecc

XBOX360
Hardware : Demon Phat
Firmware : 1.4
Flash ID : 0xDCAD Hynix (512MiB - Big block)
Flash Size : 0x1000 blocks of 0x21000 bytes
Invalid Blocks : 0x352 0x744 0x83E 0x83F 0xCAB 0xEB9
Writing Nand
Done!
in 0:04 min:sec

Success
Success
Initializing Orig_Nand_Demon_001.bin..
Nand Initialization Finished
XBOX360
Hardware : Demon Phat
Firmware : 1.4
Flash ID : 0xDCAD Hynix (512MiB - Big block)
Flash Size : 0x1000 blocks of 0x21000 bytes
Invalid Blocks : 0x0 0x1 0x2 0x3 0x4 0x5 0x6 0x7 0x8 0x9 0x352 0x744 0x83E 0x83F 0xCAB 0xEB9
Writing Nand
 

GModz Tuts

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Feb 20, 2013
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Broomfield, Colorado
Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

Well, Got it to power on with the .ecc, I forgot I must put the .ecc on the DemoN due to the Enable point. Derp. But its taking a very long time to boot Xell o_O I have been sitting here for 10 minutes and it still ahsnt booted Xell. I tried Cap open, cap closed, Jumper open, Jumper closed, what mroe can I try? Im using the 50 ohm low loss cable and its grounded.
 
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stefanounick

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

what .. you know that the xbox nand is BB and the demon nand is SB?

Sent from my Nexus 7
 
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GModz Tuts

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

what .. you know that the xbox nand is BB and the demon nand is SB?

Sent from my Nexus 7

I should have know that :facepalm: the Chip can only hold 16mb :rolleyes2: Duh. Sorry for the stupidity. Anyways, And Ideas why it will not boot Xell? I have done a lot of RGH jobs, but never a Dual nand until now. And ever One i have done before has been RGH1, Mine is RGH2 sadly.
 

GModz Tuts

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

Pics:

Best Pics I can get, Includes CR wiring and DemoN wiring.

Yes, The Green Light is on - Its because I caught this picture while it was flashing.






DemoN Wiring










CoolRunner Rev. C Wiring


FYI! I used the BLUE wire for point F since it didnt come with a BROWN wire for F!!










The CR Ground is not burnt, Its from the flash. I even redid it. And points on the BB Conversion kit are not bridged, its just the pictures. I looked them over with a magnifying glass.


Also, I disabled the CR EN, Flashed a Non-Demon Timing file to the CR, and tried to boot Xell on the Onboard NAND - Hit eject, and nothing happenned. Maybe this will help.
 
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Antalpromille

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

im not saying that your soldering is the problem but i can defenitly say that i see big flaws in your solderingskills and your common sence for wiring and installs. you dont think you should have isolated both ends of the low-loss cable? cutting down the un-isolated parts of your other wires etc.? and do your self a favor, get some good flux and learn how to use it.
 
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Martin C

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

You have the 'F' wire soldered to the wrong point on the board. That's 3.3v switched. I'd be surprised if you've not damaged the coolrunner already.
 
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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

You have the 'F' wire soldered to the wrong point on the board. That's 3.3v switched. I'd be surprised if you've not damaged the coolrunner already.
This I do, Thanks a Ton martin C. I have done a bunch of RGH installs and never done that, Im surprised I did, and Also surprised I didnt catch that. I hope the CR isn't burnt up,Its a brand new one. Am I ok so assume the CR is fine since the Green Light is flashing every 5 seconds?
 

GModz Tuts

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

so i went ahead and tried the shielded cable un grounded as suggested by wnyconsoles i believe, no luck. tried the slim wire wrapped around the heatsinks and coiled over the southbridge, no luck. tried tevery timing file, no luck. tried a new .ecc, no luck.

so im wondering if its my cr. being that the green light flashes, do you guys think its ok?
 

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

Can you post logs of the ECC / XSVF being written as well as new images of your CR soldering?
 

GModz Tuts

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Re: Demon BB reading as a SB even with conversion and Firmware update?

Can you post logs of the ECC / XSVF being written as well as new images of your CR soldering?
Here are the logs, My camera is charging but I will post new pics in about 30 minutes.

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:53:20 AM

J-Runner v0.2 Beta (288) Started


WARNING! - Your selected working directory already contains files!
You can view these files by using 'Show Working Folder' Button


Checking Files
Finished Checking Files
Initializing nanddump2.bin..
Nand Initialization Finished
* unpacking flash image, ....
Spare Data found, will remove.
Removed
* found decrypted CD
* found XeLL binary, must be linked to 0x1c000000
* we found the following parts:
SMC: 2.3
CB_A: 6753
CB_B: 6753
CD (image): 6753
CD (decrypted): 9452
* checking required versions...
ok
* patching SMC...
Patching Jasper version 2.3 SMC at offset 0x12BA
* Replacing CD...

* XOR HACK NEEDED FOR CB 6753
* patching CB_B...
patchset for 6752 found, 4 patch(es)
* Applying XOR Hack to CB_B 6753
*** Re-encrypting CB_B with xor keystream
*** Fixing entrypoint
* Replacing CB_A 6753 with 6752
* encrypting CB...
* constructing new image...
* base size: 70000
* No separate recovery Xell available!
* Flash Layout:
0x0..0x1FF (0x200 bytes) Header
0x200..0xFFF (0xE00 bytes) Padding
0x1000..0x3FFF (0x3000 bytes) SMC
0x4000..0x7FFF (0x4000 bytes) Keyvault
0x8000..0x9ABF (0x1AC0 bytes) CB_A 6752
0x9AC0..0x1317F (0x96C0 bytes) CB_B 6752
0x13180..0x1917F (0x6000 bytes) CD 9452
0x19180..0xBFFFF (0xA6E80 bytes) Padding
0xC0000..0xFFFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (backup)
0x100000..0x13FFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (main)
* Encoding ECC...Done!
------------- Written into output\image_00000000.ecc

DEMON
Hardware : Demon Phat
Firmware : 1.4
Flash ID : 0x73AD Hynix (16MiB - Small block)
Flash Size : 0x400 blocks of 0x4200 bytes
Writing Nand
Done!
in 0:04 min:sec

Programming Coolrunner
C:\Documents and Settings\GModz\Desktop\Xbox 360\Xbox 360 modding\Xbox 360 Console hacking\JRunner v02 Beta 92840 Core Pack\J-Runner v02 Beta (284) Core Pack\J-Runner v02 Beta (284) Core Pack\common\xsvf\RGH2_A_en.xsvf
sending xsvf to demon...
Done
 

GModz Tuts

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Just tried all timing files again, Demon Enabled and not enabled, Nothing. Tried slim cable, even routed away from the board completely, Nothing. Ungrounded low loss, nothing.

Also, When I set my switch to "slim" (trying to test that too as I heard it may work) The CR doesnt blink at all like it should.
 

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Is this with a new CR chip, based on the fact you may have damaged this one?

If you've not tried 30-40 cm of kynar for CPU_RST yet, it's worth trying this first.
 
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GModz Tuts

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No, Its not due to me now having another one at hand. But This is what I may do: I have a slim sitting here that Needs RGH'ed anyway. I may take this chip out, RGH the slim, and see if it works. If so, Ill order a new one for my console. shall try Kynar wire in a bit here as well. Thanks Martin C!

Also, Do you have any Ideas why my fans speed up when I try to glitch the Demon nand to xell? I have never seen that before. Like, they go full blast right away. Its not bridged solder as It does not so this when I boot the retail nand.