Demon Phat 512 BB - Toggle button not working?

[_cmx_]

Console: Jasper 512MB
Demon: SB with conversion kit
Cool Runner: Revision C

I have retail nand 13599 on the xbox nand, and I have built the image for Jasper 16 MB for the demon.

Inside J-Runner, I use Demon -> Toggle Nand (switches to Demon nand), the leds light up on the demon to blue. I use Demon -> Power On and the console starts booting, after 1-3 glitch attempts, it boots into 16203. I then proceed to power down the console and use Demon -> Toggle Nand to switch back to retail nand, and console boots back into 13599 no problem.

However, if I press the toggle button on the Demon board with the USB port, the leds start to flicker and the console does not power on. After about 30-50 seconds, the leds go out.

Could it be the Demon USB / switch board has a bad toggle button or something? Anybody heard anything like this?

(My digital camera battery is dead and my cell phone takes horrible pics, so I'm charging the battery for my camera and will have pics to upload tomorrow.)

-CMX

 

[Martin C]

Without images, there's nothing we can do.

The other concern is you're using a DemoN for stock which, once updated past 14699 will force you to use RGH2.

 

[kiefer.samu]

I have the exact same problem man I can only toggle the nand through my computer which is irritating let me know if you figure it out I've looked everywhere and spent countless hours trying to figure it out

 

[scott1503]

I have the exact same problem man I can only toggle the nand through my computer which is irritating let me know if you figure it out I've looked everywhere and spent countless hours trying to figure it out

Start your own thread with pictures and people will help you !

 

[kiefer.samu]

Is there anyway we can install another button to see it that works?

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I did weeks ago everyone was baffled

 

[_cmx_]

Added the pics. If I can get the toggle button working, I'll redo the CR3 for RGH2, no problem there. Just I'd like to see the toggle button working with the button and not just J-Runner -> Demon -> Toggle Nand.

 

[big_ted]

have you tried wiring the sync wire, and does it switch using the sync button then ?
Also have you tried swapping ends on the ribbon cable from switch board to demon.

Ted

 

[kiefer.samu]

Okay I've been up all night messing with this and found something interesting with the power. So our lights flash(flicker) if we try to switch nands and I randomly tried it without the power (red) attached and it acts in the same exact way. So I feel like it has something to do with that wire. I was looking at your pictures and noticed your 5v was close to a resistor on the Demon unfortunately mine is not touching so I'm still in the same dilemma but you could give that a shot.

 

[kiefer.samu]

Also I just tried the toggle nand on the computer with the red wire detached and it switched fine so I am almost positive that the 5v stb is the problem. This makes sense why when we use our computers to switch the nand Its using the 5v from the usb

 

[_cmx_]

have you tried wiring the sync wire, and does it switch using the sync button then ?
Also have you tried swapping ends on the ribbon cable from switch board to demon.

Ted

Yes, I tried with the sync wire and the sync button does nothing. It won't even rotate the lights to sync a controller to the system.

Okay I've been up all night messing with this and found something interesting with the power. So our lights flash(flicker) if we try to switch nands and I randomly tried it without the power (red) attached and it acts in the same exact way. So I feel like it has something to do with that wire. I was looking at your pictures and noticed your 5v was close to a resistor on the Demon unfortunately mine is not touching so I'm still in the same dilemma but you could give that a shot.

I'll remove the red wire from the demon and re-route it now.

UPDATE: Re-routed the red wire, same result.

-CMX

 

[Nadles]

Okay this is making this two confusing with two people post in this thread with the same issues, but two different xbox's and two different installs. It could be two totally different problems. So please stop posting asking for answers and giving information about your problem (kiefer) in OP's Thread.

As for the OP... I see a lot of wire exposed in a couple spots and a Ton of solder in some, Also some flux. What's up with that power point connected to that Resistor? I would clean up the excess on a lot of the wires, It sound like the SMC isn't resetting properly without switching the Nand through the computer. When you read the Nand initially did it ever freeze up in J-Runner?

Have you messed with the Ribbon cable a lot?

It has to be something connectivity wise I would imagine.

 

[_cmx_]

Okay this is making this two confusing with two people post in this thread with the same issues, but two different xbox's and two different installs. It could be two totally different problems. So please stop posting asking for answers and giving information about your problem (kiefer) in OP's Thread.

As for the OP... I see a lot of wire exposed in a couple spots and a Ton of solder in some, Also some flux. What's up with that power point connected to that Resistor? I would clean up the excess on a lot of the wires, It sound like the SMC isn't resetting properly without switching the Nand through the computer. When you read the Nand initially did it ever freeze up in J-Runner?

Have you messed with the Ribbon cable a lot?

It has to be something connectivity wise I would imagine.

Not really messed with the ribbon cable, made sure its plugged in properly, and not under the connector, etc.

I have moved the red 5V Standby wire around so it's no where near the resistor. If you could be more specific about which wires have a ton of solder other than the Black (GND) and the Red (5V) wires?

When the console is booted up in with the blue led off, booting from xbox nand, and I press the toggle button, the console shuts off immediately and the two LED's begin to flicker. So it's at least attempting to switch the nand with the toggle button. If I use J-Runner to toggle the nand, it powers down and the LED's stay lit up.

I have dumped the nand's without any freezing in J-Runner. The only thing I can think of, is somehow maybe there are some bad blocks on the demon and it just happens to be the location where the SB is normally stored or something similar. How can I double check the xbox nand and the demon nand to verify there are no bad blocks in either?

-cmx-

 

[Nadles]

Did you ever switch the nands while it was out of the metal cage? And also is your external switch grounded? Your soldering looks okay if you re routed power. Some just have some exposed wire. When I do installs my goal is to see no wire really. But that might now be the problem. Sometimes I have to cover my nand points and points on the demon due to them grounding out.

 

[kiefer.samu]

Okay this is making this two confusing with two people post in this thread with the same issues, but two different xbox's and two different installs. It could be two totally different problems. So please stop posting asking for answers and giving information about your problem (kiefer) in OP's Thread.

As for the OP... I see a lot of wire exposed in a couple spots and a Ton of solder in some, Also some flux. What's up with that power point connected to that Resistor? I would clean up the excess on a lot of the wires, It sound like the SMC isn't resetting properly without switching the Nand through the computer. When you read the Nand initially did it ever freeze up in J-Runner?

Have you messed with the Ribbon cable a lot?

It has to be something connectivity wise I would imagine.

Nadles your an idiot I have the same problem which has not been on this site before or any other site, obviously there it is a similar problem. I have my own thread and your obviously not giving good advice. Im trying to help him not you so back off dude if your so stupid that you can look at a name to figure out who is talking about what maybe you shouldn't be wasting other people's time with your poor advice.

 

[kiefer.samu]

I believe it is a power issue on the demon chip itself unfortunately, I got a new one and installed it and it worked just fine

 

[scott1503]

Nadles your an idiot I have the same problem which has not been on this site before or any other site, obviously there it is a similar problem. I have my own thread and your obviously not giving good advice. Im trying to help him not you so back off dude if your so stupid that you can look at a name to figure out who is talking about what maybe you shouldn't be wasting other people's time with your poor advice.

Why are you trying to help when you have the same problem and have no idea what's going on with yours ! And tbh nadles is right in what he said you should be in your own thread as your just jumping in with a thread that is similar there for having 2 different consoles 2 different problems in 1 thread

 

[Martin C]

Infraction issued for thread hijacking.

 

[big_ted]

The red power wire soldered on to the motherboard doesn't look the best connection, try turning the iron up a bit and retouch on that point.

resistance on that point = lower voltages and funny things happening or things not happening.

Ted

 

[Nadles]

Nadles your an idiot I have the same problem which has not been on this site before or any other site, obviously there it is a similar problem. I have my own thread and your obviously not giving good advice. Im trying to help him not you so back off dude if your so stupid that you can look at a name to figure out who is talking about what maybe you shouldn't be wasting other people's time with your poor advice.

No you're thread Hi-Jacking. It's not proper. And yeah it's similar but doesn't give you the right to take away from somebody else getting help. If it's the same then sit back and wait or watch you're own thread.

You just want someone to tell you it isn't your fault and that it is the Demon's fault, and that's most likely not the case. I've installed four Demons this week with no problem.

Just because two people have similar problems does not mean that it is the same problem and definitely doesn't make it a common issue.

 

[_cmx_]

The red power wire soldered on to the motherboard doesn't look the best connection, try turning the iron up a bit and retouch on that point.

resistance on that point = lower voltages and funny things happening or things not happening.

Ted

I will try this shortly.

*UPDATE*: I just said forget it and took out the demon and will just use the console as RGH'd. You can close the thread.

-cmx-