EDIT: What will NOT work without the Alternate V5 wire?

[shud]

My idiot friend installed my X3 and he definitely didn't use item 5, the alternate V5 wire. Is this absolutely necessary for a 1.6? Is this why I can't do alternate boots like backup boot and disabling the X3?

Would it have anything to do with the fact that I can't flash my bios the whole way through (it hangs at "FLASHING XECUTOR", without ever giving me a progress bar)?

 

[mobomelter]

i'm pretty positive that the alt 5v is required on the 1.6 board. check out the tutorials for 1.6

 

[starkeyluv]

if the 5v was not connected then the blue 5v led would'nt come on and the external switch would'nt light up. you would'nt be able to even get to the bios screen, let alone try to flash it. are you sure that it's not hooked up, I mean have you opened your case ? and even if it's not hooked up if he still has it can't you just get him to solder it for you ? it takes like all of 30 seconds once you get the case open and the drives out.

 

[AJerman]

Well, obviously the 5v pin was never removed from the pin header, that's why you can't turn off the mod chip. Open it up, heat up the 5v pin and yank it out with some pliers, then hook up the alt 5v wire. Shouldn't be any problem after that should there? Unless there was anything else wrong with the chip then you will be good to go after you fix that.

 

[Gek025]

Well, obviously the 5v pin was never removed from the pin header, that's why you can't turn off the mod chip. Open it up, heat up the 5v pin and yank it out with some pliers, then hook up the alt 5v wire. Shouldn't be any problem after that should there? Unless there was anything else wrong with the chip then you will be good to go after you fix that.

Not to be rude but i think you may be confused here, the alt5V is a bar coming off of the chip itself, it comes with a cover when you get it so in cases like these where you don't need to use it you wont have to expose the bar to the elements surrounding it. ie. boards, and anything else metal. YOU NEED THE 5V IF YOU HAVE A 1.6, machine will not run without it!

 

[AJerman]

Well, obviously the 5v pin was never removed from the pin header, that's why you can't turn off the mod chip. Open it up, heat up the 5v pin and yank it out with some pliers, then hook up the alt 5v wire. Shouldn't be any problem after that should there? Unless there was anything else wrong with the chip then you will be good to go after you fix that.

Not to be rude but i think you may be confused here, the alt5V is a bar coming off of the chip itself, it comes with a cover when you get it so in cases like these where you don't need to use it you wont have to expose the bar to the elements surrounding it. ie. boards, and anything else metal. YOU NEED THE 5V IF YOU HAVE A 1.6, machine will not run without it!

No, I think you misunderstood what I said. He says that the alt 5v wire wasn't used in his 1.6, and he also states that the mod chip wont turn off. These are indications to me that the person who modded it likely didn't remove the alt 5v pin (pin 6) from the pin header, and didn't hook up the alt 5v wire. On 1.0-1.5 Xboxes, thats what you do, on 1.6, you have to remove pin 6 from the pin header and use the alt 5v wire. I'm suggesting that his friend did a 1.0-1.5 style install, and if so, everything would still be ok, all you would have to do is take that pin out of the pin header and hook up the alt 5v wire like it should be.

 

[Gek025]

yes but technically if he has a 1.6 shouldn't he not be able to boot at all from day one. He had a running box before and now it doesn't. Im probably wrong, but i don't think what your suggesting is the problem either. His system would of fragged from day 1 if he had done the 1.4 pinheader install on a 1.6

 

[shud]

Yes, it runs. He did a 1.5 style install because he's super ADD and didn't look up the instructions. "I've done it a million times dude".

The Alt V5 wire was sitting around when he finished and I DOUBT that it's still sitting around at his place. He probably trashed it. That's why I guess I'll have to wait until Team Xecuter opens up their store and sells spare parts to fix this problem.

 

[Gek025]

Yes, it runs. He did a 1.5 style install because he's super ADD and didn't look up the instructions. "I've done it a million times dude".

The Alt V5 wire was sitting around when he finished and I DOUBT that it's still sitting around at his place. He probably trashed it. That's why I guess I'll have to wait until Team Xecuter opens up their store and sells spare parts to fix this problem.

So you've done it a million times yet you left out the alt 5v, YOU NEED THE 5v for the 1.6 box's. Im not sure if i took your comment the wrong way, and sorry if im coming off rude, but if you've done this many times you should of known. And im very surprised you havn't either fried your chip or your mobo by not using it.

 

[shud]

You definitely read it wrong. I said my friend installed it, not me.

 

[RoaZtedPuppy]

be nice ladies

 

[shagga]

You could just soler a wire onto the X3 chip the to the alternate 5V point, its not that much bother (just dont forget to insulate the point on the chip with tape after you've soldered or bye bye motherboard if it shorts). I'm assuming he must have read some iinstructions at least though as he had to have done the LPC rebuild.

 

[AJerman]

Okay listen...

Gek025, you are reading EVERYTHING people say wrong. I understand his situation just fine, you don't seem to understand it. No offense but you just don't seem to quite get it.

shud, If you do what I am telling you, just remove pin 6 from the pin header (get some desoldering braid and get the solder off it and pull it out, or even just heat it up and yank it out), then attatch the alt 5v wire like it's supposed to be installed on a 1.6 box, then I don't think you will have any problems. It's just a matter of fixing his mistake then you're golden. Give it a try, it's not hard soldering, and if you have to, tell him to fix it and tell him what he did wrong, tell him to read what I am saying if he needs. Since the chip is still just getting 5v right now, it's no different than the alt 5v, other than it wont turn off, so nothing should be damaged by the mistake. Just fix it to make everything work right

 

[AJerman]

Okay, this is just for Gek025 to explain some things so he can understand completely.

Alright, it works like this, the 1.0-1.5 Xboxes used pin 6 from the LPC bus to get 5v power to the X3 chip. As of version 1.6 Xboxes, Microsoft has redesigned the LPC bus so that pin 6 can NEVER be turned off. This means that if you had a mod chip that was getting 5v power from pin 6 on LPC, then you would never be able to disable the chip.

So, shortly after the problem was realized, all the modchip manufacturers went to an alt 5v point. To use this alternate point, you first had to take pin 6 out (so you don't have two connections to 5v, thus overloading the chip and short circuiting the trace, a common problem that noobs do when they don't read), and then you had to solder a wire from an different place on the motherboard that had 5v power. This way you could again, turn on and off the 5v power, enabling or disabling the chip.

Now, back to his problem. His FRIEND installed the chip, apprently thinking he had done enough Xboxes to not do research properly, he did the same old install that he had done forever, installing without removing pin 6, and without installing an alt 5v cable. This means that he was getting his 5v power from the lpc which couldn't be turned off. No harm done since he is still getting the 5v power, he just can't turn off the box now. He SHOULD be able to just remove pin 6, and then solder the alt 5v wire and hook it to the x3 and have absolutely no problem at all. There is no difference in the two sources of 5v power (pin 6 vs alt 5v on the mobo) other than you can't turn it off, so it would cause no damage to the board.

I hope I helped you out so that you understand the issue now. I don't know if you knew exactly what alt 5v was for, and why the 1.6 xbox was different from the previous xboxes, but hopefully now you do

Oh, and besides, without the 5v, you won't fry anything like you suggest. It works like this...

No 5v power at all (Pin 6 taken out, alt 5v wire not installed) = Chip just plain wont turn on, no damage done, the chip just isn't getting power, so it wont turn on.

Getting 5v from either pin 6 or alt 5v = chip gets power, however if you are getting 5v from pin 6 and have a 1.6, the chip will ALWAYS be on when the box is on

Getting 5v from BOTH pin 6 AND alt 5v = Fried trace on the X3, look in these forums for a tutorial on how to repair the trace, otherwise buy a new X3.

 

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Got my xbox 360 modded about a year back, benQ, i dont know anything about anything i watched a video on youtube and have been downloading my own games just by knowing the process through piratebay, winrar, and cookiesgameburner, i always use the .iso and now since homefront, dragon age 2, and bulletstorm, and lego star wars 3 have all been burning as dvds and just say play dvd. i dont have xbox live and dont care if its stealth patched just like to enjoy the camaign, please some one help me asap!!! SOME ONE HELP ME!!!