RGH Falcon will load Xell

[DanTechMods]

I have a flacon board and I have created the ecc after flashing it Xell never loads. Created using J-Runner and Multibuilder, same thing. There is one bad block at 165 so it should not be an issue for Xell.

Checked all the soldering and everything is ok. I can flash the orig (13599) nand and place the CR in program mode and it boots with no issues. I have tried also using the Opus timing files with no luck.

Will post some pics of the soldering when I get home from work.

:frown:

Any advice would be great.

 

[BL4K3Y]

I assume you have set the switches on your CoolRunner to NORM and PHAT?

Can you also post your J-Runner log please.

 

[DanTechMods]

When I get home from work I will, but everything is good in J-Runner. ECC builds exactly the way I would expect it to, and yes it is set to phat and norm on the CR.

 

[Martin C]

Pics should be mandatory now - absolutely no point in trying to help without seeing what you've already done.

 

[Mister_X]

Pics should be mandatory now - absolutely no point in trying to help without seeing what you've already done.

I think it should be a rule that if you're going to ask why your rgh/jtag isnt working you MUST post pictures of your wiring and soldering.

Its getting tedious for the guys who are in the know to help those who are not. Especially since we have to beg and fight with users to post pictures so we are not all wasting our time.

Seems one out of 3 people you ask for photos you get

I'm positive i'm a elite solderer and I know that's not my problem

Or something along the lines of that. Only to see pictures after we demand/beg and see the solder is the issue it looks like hell and they have a short or something.

 

[WNYConsoles]

Pics should be mandatory now - absolutely no point in trying to help without seeing what you've already done.

Agreed. OP post some pictures and we will be glad to help.

 

[DanTechMods]

As I said in my orig post I would post some pics when I get home from work. But just assume for now that the soldering is perfect, does anyone have any thoughts as to what the issue may be.

Oh yeah the CR blinks green every 5 seconds and the fans pulse as I expect them to but no Xell. I have left it for an hour and it did not glitch but the green light keeps blinking and the fans keep pulsing.

 

[Martin C]

Regardless of the soldering, we need pics. The wire locations play a big part to how well it glitches.

 

[DanTechMods]

Here are the pics I promised. Sorry about the quality.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6694/1002007k.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9426/1002008y.jpg

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7154/1002009p.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/870/1002011r.jpg

 

[dingle01900]

Try running the blue wire across the top of the motherboard by the fans. Thats helped me a few times.

 

[Kr4k 4 J4Ck]

I had this issue Black screen no Xell but green light was blinking,

Problem was the green wire had a tiny little bridge, resolderer it and it worked fine, maybe that is your problem?

 

[DanTechMods]

Thanks for your replies but I did try the blue across the top and I used a 10x magnifier to look at the green and all other points and there is no bridge. This is the first falcon I could not get to glitch.

 

[Ticallion]

You'll need a pretty big magnifying glass to see electrons moving, get the multimeter onto the PLL_BYPSS and check for continuity on surrounding capacitors and resistors, namely the ones closer to the CPU, you should have no continuity to any of those.

Oh and as Blakey asked for, JRunner log.

 

[DanTechMods]

I forgot the J-Runner log. I will up it tonight. Also I already checked the surrounding area for continuity and nothing as I expected. There is continuity from the coolrunner to the alt PLL_BYPASS with the green wire soldered to the normal PLL_BYPASS.

From past experience if you bridge solder in that area it usually ends with a 0022 red ring.

 

[DanTechMods]

Here is the log of the ECC creation.

Checking Files
Finished Checking Files
Initializing Nand..
* found flash image, unpacking....
ECC'ed - will unecc.
UnECC'ed
* found decrypted CD
* found XeLL binary, must be linked to 0x1c000000
* we found the following parts:
SMC: 1.6
CB_A: 5771
CB_B: missing
CD (image): 8453
CD (decrypted): 8453
* this image will be valid *only* for: falcon
* patching SMC...
Patching Falcon version 1.6 SMC at offset 0x12A3
* zero-pairing...
* constructing new image...
* base size: 70000
* encrypting CB...
7B67DFF4AE33BEEDB39398E8D6CCDE44
* encrypting CD...
* No separate recovery Xell available!
* Flash Layout:
0x0..0x1FF (0x200 bytes) Header
0x200..0xFFF (0xE00 bytes) Padding
0x1000..0x3FFF (0x3000 bytes) SMC
0x4000..0x7FFF (0x4000 bytes) Keyvault
0x8000..0x1133F (0x9340 bytes) CB_A 5771
0x11340..0x1733F (0x6000 bytes) CD 8453
0x17340..0xBFFFF (0xA8CC0 bytes) Padding
0xC0000..0xFFFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (backup)
0x100000..0x13FFFF (0x40000 bytes) Xell (main)
* Encoding ECC...
100%
------------- Written into output\image_00000000.ecc

 

[Martin C]

Is the debug light flashing every 5 secs?

To be honest, I spotted the following:

1. STBY_CLK soldering looks a little dodgy. Desolder, trim the wire back to about 1mm showing. Flux the point and resolder. If you need to (and are able to solder well enough), you can solder it to the side of the adjacent resistor instead of the point. I've sometimes laid the wire flat so the tip is soldered to the resistor and the length is soldered to the pad.

2. Try running CPU_PLL_BYPASS wire along the top of the x-clamps rather than under them. I have seen issues with them running inside like that. Not all the time, but enough when I have a problem to move it.

 

[DanTechMods]

Yes it flashes every 5 sec. I test the continuity from the backside of the resistor at STBY_CLK and it was good and it was not bridged to anything else. The camera is not the best so it may look that way but the soldering is good. I think I will try the alt STBY_CLK under the board though. The brown in the pic is the flux residue.

I am also going to try thr CR on another RGH I have, to rule out a faulty CR.

 

[DanTechMods]

Checked the CR on my other system and it worked. I then soldered to all other alt points and still the same thing. I'm at a lose.

 

[Martin C]

Try the CPU_PLL_BYPASS wire in another position. Also make sure CPU_RST isn't near anything which might cause interference.

Seeing as you have a Falcon, if everything else is ok then with the original stock NAND written back (first 50 blocks are all that's needed to be replaced) and the CR set to NOR, the console should boot.

 

[DanTechMods]

Yes when I write back the original nand it boots without issue. I have even tried shielded wire and still the same thing. The green light flashes every 5 sec and Xell will not load. I'm stumped. At least it is not red ringing when I write the stock nand back to it.