Flashed X3 Bios - Now Turns On Then Off

[LiNk2600]

Well this is really frustrating, I have done this several times before... but now this is happening.

Info: Xbox V1.0, X3CE, and Bioses 3238, 3284 and 3294
Current Flash Bank Config: 1MB X3, 512k X2, and backup Cromwell on a 256k bank

I just flashed the X3 CE chip with the above NON-1.6plus bioses (tried three different ones)... but when I try to start up the xbox with the small power button, it turns on and then immediately off. No green eject button or anything... and yes, I have tried resoldering all of the points on the board. The wierder thing is that I was able to flash the newest X2 5032 bios to the second half of the chip to see if I could even get the chip to work at all... and it works perfectly... so I know that the chip is good. I'm really stumped and have no idea as to what I'm supposed to do next. Does anybody have any ideas?

 

[jflow9243]

question

how did you do the thing where you check to see if you had a good chip

 

[LiNk2600]

Checked to see if chip is good...

BTW: I'm using HTTP Flash & HD Flash Methods (C:\bios)

How I know the chip is good:
Well, I was able to flash a X2 bios over the X3 bios that wouldn't boot. I booted up (after setting the switches to the bios that I wanted to flash) using the "hold eject and power until X3 logo goes purple" trick to boot from the backup flashbios 3.0.0. After flashing the X2 bios... the xbox boots fine. The problem is that I don't want an X2 bios... I want an X3 bios because I have an X3 chip.

Here's what originally happened:
1) I forgot to set the X3 switches to ON-ON-OFF-OFF-OFF so it was set to OFF-OFF-OFF-OFF-OFF when I originally flashed the xbox with X3 3294... so that flash didn't work. I guess I should have paid more attention to detail in the beginning. Since that flash was 1MB I assumed that it just flashed the first MB of the total two... so I set the switches to ON-ON-OFF-OFF-OFF to see if it would boot... and NOTHING. It just pretty much turned off after 2-3 seconds.

2) Baffled at my stupidity, I then set the switches to OFF-ON-OFF-OFF-OFF to flash the second half of the onboard 2MB real-estate. Well that 3294 flash didn't work either... same deal.

3) At this point I began to believe that I had a corrupted bios and began trying other older versions. Still nothing.

4) My current configuration after breaking down and just flashing a X2 bios is as follows:
ON-ON-OFF-OFF-OFF = X3 3294 (not working)
ON-OFF-ON-OFF-OFF = X2 5032 (works)
OFF-OFF-OFF-ON-OFF = Cromwell Flashbios

Please help!

 

[tbono]

Same issue...

I've got pretty much the same problem happening to me. I've got a v1.6 xbox though.

After I flash my x3 with x3 bios build 3294, it will turn on for about .5-1 seconds and then turn back off. It only does it once (not 3 times as if I'd installed the wrong bios version). I've got a v1.6 xbox, and I'm using the v16plus bios. There's not FRAG either. It just turns on and back off again.

The first time I booted the xbox with the modchip, it went into flashbios 3.0.1. Since then, I've had to hit power/eject together to get into flashbios. My dipswitches are in 11000 position (for banks 1-4). I'm using http flash to upload and flash my x3. I've tried x3.3294 and x3.3293.

I tried flashing with x2.5035, and that worked. I had dipswitches in 11100 position for banks 1 and 2 when this worked.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

 

[LiNk2600]

Yep

That's exactly what is happening, I haven't counted the seconds or anything... I just remembered that it turned on for a really short while and then off again. No fragging or anything... just on and off and only once.

Sorry to say this though, I'm glad that I'm not the only one with this problem... that usually means there's something we're overlooking and there's some sort of fix for the issue.

 

[tbono]

I just hope someone here knows what the fix is....

 

[Stan-O]

I have the same problem with a V1.0 xbox that i'm modding for a friend. I resoldered the points and now when i flash the chip, instead of it turning off, it just stays blank screen. Also when it did turn off the xbox let out a little scream (kinda funny, but not really)

I have not resolved the issue yet, but after doing some research they say to resolder the points on the pin header, in some cases it had to be done a few times. I'll keep trying, and post my sucess here

-Stan-O

 

[matt77303]

if the x2 bios works but the x3 doesnt then i would double check points 13 +14 on the lpc, the x3 bios uses these points to chabge bios settings on the fly, where as the x2 bios doesnt need them.

Matt

 

[RedOne]

I’m new to this so bear with me. I had my XBOX mod with the X3 w/ lcd – proswitch by a website purchase. When I received it there was no info as to what version of box I had.



I fired up the box, the switches were set at off/on/off/off, with FlashBIOS 3.03 came up on the screen (I assume it then was v1.6b). So I proceeded to load 3.03. I follow the steps that need to load the bios, got the yellow/green loading/shut down and when I powered up nothing changed still have the FlashBIOS 3.03 on the screen. That led me to believe that 3.01 need to be load, so I changed the switch to on/on/off/off, the FlashBIOS 3.01 came up on the screen. Loaded 3.01 and I came up with a Blank screen/no sound w/green light for a few seconds and then it went to a steady amber light (? Amber is it a Frag. Read thru a number of posting and they state re-soldering pins, especially 13 and 14. Well to do that I need to have someone to help with doing this for me. That will be awhile, yet to come.)



So playing around, reading posting of problems and remedies, for trying a number of actions. I then try re-flashing 3.03, this set everything back on Bank1-4 to FlashBIOS 3.01. This freaked me out. So to say the least bios 3.01 loaded but did not work and 3.03 would not load at all.



I then try loading Evox’s M8plus 1.6 to Bank3 (on/off/on/on) and this loaded and worked fine. Even loaded Evolution X 3935 dashboard. Why does this work, but 3.01/3.03 does not?



So I then went to the web and got X3 3294 bios, and flashed that to Bank 1-4, and guess what it worked. This even made the LCD to work, but can not read the lettering (That’s a whole other issue and postings that I’m reading). Screen came up had X3 live config. and everything else (Boot dash even gave me the Evox dash). Again this got me wondering is there something else is wrong.



I then turned the box off, set the switch back to Bank 3 and it proceed to turn on and off a number of times and then frag green/red. This freaked me.



As it stands, I have X3 3294 on Bank1-4 working. M8plus on Bank3 now not working, and Bank5-8 still has FlashingBIOS 3.03.



What do you think? Is it the connections (soldering of pins 13&14, as stated in the postings) or bios problems. I would think that if 3.01 did not work, then why does X3 3294 work.



Any help or ideas would be appreciated.



But in the mean time I need to get with my friend to help look over these solder points. As for the LCD to read the words, I’m still reading the posting.

Red

 

[matt77303]

uhm, flash bios is not a hacked bios like the x3 3294 or the evox bios, all flash bios will allow you to do is flash the modchip with a hacked bios, like the evox one or x3 3294.

if you had the evox bios on bank 3 then when you flashed the x3 bios on 1-4 then it would overwrite the bios on bank 3.

put it on bank 5 if you really want to, overwrite the flash bios you can always get to that later by pressing power and eject at the same time,

as for the lcd, have you adjusted the knob on the x3 itself?
Matt

 

[matt77303]

** [font=verdana, arial, helvetica]What do you think? Is it the connections (soldering of pins 13&14, as stated in the postings) or bios problems. I would think that if 3.01 did not work, then why does X3 3294 work. **

WTF if your x3 bios boots up then you dont need th do anything it is working as it should!!!!!

Matt
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[Stan-O]

Hey guys,

I got it to work, it is the solder points, I resoldered them again and it worked this time. Make sure there are no traces of anything between the points, not even flux, i used an old toothbrush to clean the contacts after i soldered them.

V1.0 Xbox with X3
first time - flash bios appears, network flashed, then dies
second time - flash bios appears, network flashed, then blan screen (didn't die)
Third time - same as second
Fourth time - flash bios appears, network flashed, then BINGO!

Don't ask how or why ( i can't answer that) but just keep trying to resolder the points.

 

[LiNk2600]

That's Good News

Wow, that's both really good and somewhat bad news... I hate opening that thing back up. =) At least it only takes seconds, but it's still annoying. Also I'm starting to worry about frying the ports by heating it up too many times LOL. Darn, and I thought I was a pretty good solderer... considering I fix medical equipment for a living. ;-) I'll let you guys know when I fix it how things went. It's going to be another couple of days before I get around to it now... until then the X2 bios will work as a temp solution.

 

[tbono]

I gave it a second try as well. This time, the x3 switch panel leds didn't light at all, and it just tried to boot straight into xboxdash as if the mod chip wasn't there. I'll give it another try soon and post back with results.

 

[tbono]

After 4 more tries, still the same scenario. I should have left it alone with the 2.6 bios. I'm getting pretty frustrated.

My solder job looks okay (though it may not be). When I boot the xbox with no HD and DVD so I can see the chip, I see that only 1 led on the chip is on: the 5v chip. What should I be looking for? My front switch plate still doesn't light either since re-soldering.

Thanks.

 

[mike89]

Ok Guys if you have aversion 1.0-1.2 xbox the xecuter 3 will not properly it is meant for 1.3-1.6 xboxs. Known Errors

1. you try to turn box on but it goes on, off, on,off then it has a red/green light where the eject button is.
2. You try putting flash bios on the box but not working

3. All of the above means your xbox burned out.

Sorry About The News Guys

 

[mike89]

I do not know anything else about the errors of your version of xbox.

If you need a quick reminder of the problems, IM me on AIM
wat i said is sadly true and your xbox is probally gone
I would no go for a new motherboard because the box itself is 150$ and the mothere board is the same.






AimName: cXX H3ADSHOT XXc

 

[LiNk2600]

Yeah, Whatever

Apparently you didn't read the first couple of posts... or any other ones relating to this thread. Also the X3 chip IS compatable with xbox versions 1.0-1.6. Click here for proof: http://home.comcast.net/~x3guide/New/installation.html

My xbox is not "burned out" as you say. How I know?

1) I AM able to use the chip with an X2 bios
2) I AM able to use every version of FlashBios
3) There is nothing wrong with the motherboard because it boots using the X2 bios and also works when the chip is removed
4) I also know there is nothing wrong with the chip because I took it out and installed it into a 1.6 xbox and it worked just fine

You know, I really wish I could delete your posts because you didn't read all the posts and assumed you knew that my xbox is bad. Nice Try. Also I'm sure team xecuter doesn't appreciate you spreading misinformation about their products around their site. Wow, you rock (insert sarcasm here).

If anybody has any real ideas as to what is going on with my xbox, please feel free to reply... otherwise keep your assumptions to yourself.

The topic of this thread is based on this problem:

1) Installed X3 chip using the pin header method into an xbox v1.0
2) Flashing the X3 bios (any version) will cause the xbox to turn off almost immediately after being turned on... no flashing different colors or fragging... it just turns off
3) It has already been suggested that the chip might need resoldered
4) When any other bios is flashed (ie. X2) the xbox boots without issues.
5) Holding power and eject boots into the flashbios backup
6) The chip is fine and works in other xboxes
7) The motherboard is fine because it works with X2 bios and original xbox bios
8) The correct version of the X3 bios has been uploaded

Also does anybody know points that I can check with a multimeter to see if the pins are actually soldered to the motherboard? Thanks in advance for any valid help.

 

[g$$$]

mike89 what the f**k are you talking about? You have no clue as to what you are saying so you should keep your mouth shut and only be stupid in private. Now we all know you are ignorant.

link2600 Look for anything posted by mmicrosysm or catalyst, I think one of them has a link to multimeter readings in there sig. Did resoldering 13&14 help any or have you tried yet.

 

[LiNk2600]

Resoldering

Yeah, I tried resoldering several times and always end up with the same result. I'm pretty decent at soldering... like I said I fix medical equipment for a living so I'm pretty darn sure that it's not the soldering. At one point I even got so frustrated that I decided to scratch the soldering iron on the points to make sure there was some sort of contatct with them. That's why I want to check the points with a multimeter... using a continuity check to see if they are in fact connected. I'm not looking for readings per sé... but rather other points on the board that are electronically connected to the points we solder to.

Thanks for actually reading my posts, I'll check those guys profiles to see what they have to say. Also thanks for understanding my frustration with that BS reply from what's-his-name. =)