Im kind of a noob so I hope this question has not been asked 50 times already. I have a Samsung MS28 drive that I flashed awhile ago with lt2.0 and I have lost any backup key I might have had since my computer I used then crashed. I am trying to flash a new MS28 drive that I just bought so I put my old still working drive into jungleflasher got the key from it (though it is a parallel flash). I then put in the new drive and flashed it with 2.01 for the sammy drives and everything seemed to work fine in jungleflasher confirmed, outro, but when I hook it up to Xbox it wont play games just gives me play dvd sometimes says play game but wont play. What can I do? Is there any way to get my key off an already flashed drive? Or am I missing something else?
FIXED Flashing new MS28 drive lost original drive key
- Thread starter KratosTheMan
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gazcoigne
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what do you mean by parallel flash?
you are correct in your assumption, you should be able to pull your key from the old drive and flash it to the new one.
why are you replacing the drive? it would have been much easier to just replace the laser if its not reading games (unless the drive is physically damaged of course)
you could simply swap the PCB's but again it much more work than swapping in a new laser.
are you sure the 'new' drive has a working laser?
you will get play dvd when your laser is on its way out too, same as a mismatched dvd key.
you are correct in your assumption, you should be able to pull your key from the old drive and flash it to the new one.
why are you replacing the drive? it would have been much easier to just replace the laser if its not reading games (unless the drive is physically damaged of course)
you could simply swap the PCB's but again it much more work than swapping in a new laser.
are you sure the 'new' drive has a working laser?
you will get play dvd when your laser is on its way out too, same as a mismatched dvd key.
I mean the drive is flashed so shows up as parallel flash in jungleflasher. It works on most backup games but I wasnt sure the key would still be the same since its flashed. I cant be 100% sure the new drive has a brand spanking new laser since its manufactured in 2006 according to the label so I would assume was either never used since then or is a refurb. I bought it on ebay as new so who really knows. I am scared to reflash the one working drive I have since I have this new drive I would rather try something risky on. I am thinking of doing a pot tweak on the laser to see if that helps.
gazcoigne
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still no idea what your on about parallel flash lol ive never noticed that in JF and its irrelevant anyway
forget pot tweaking your only going to get a small amount of time out of it before it dies. dont flog a dead horse.
new lasers are cheap as chips and simple to install.
the drive manufacture date is also irrelevant, most sellers will install a new laser if they are selling it as 'new'. the drives were only manufactured for the consoles the came in, spares werent made for market as replaceable parts lol so all drives will be from that era.
you really need to do some reading up on this subject as you sem very unsure of it all. of course your key is copied over, its a fundimental part of FW flashing.
forget pot tweaking your only going to get a small amount of time out of it before it dies. dont flog a dead horse.
new lasers are cheap as chips and simple to install.
the drive manufacture date is also irrelevant, most sellers will install a new laser if they are selling it as 'new'. the drives were only manufactured for the consoles the came in, spares werent made for market as replaceable parts lol so all drives will be from that era.
you really need to do some reading up on this subject as you sem very unsure of it all. of course your key is copied over, its a fundimental part of FW flashing.
BL4K3Y
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It's the type of flash used on Samsung drives.
JungleFlasher still uses MTK commands to read and write to the drive though.
OP: If some games work and others don't, the drive key is correct - a new laser is probably your answer.
By the way, has the drive been spoofed as anything else?
My current working drive I have flashed with MS28 FW lt2.0 has not ever been spoofed as something else, my system came with MS28 and that hasnt changed. The drive I bought new on ebay I think showed up originally as a hitachi (though it is a Sammy MS28)so it possibly could have been spoofed as something else before. Most backups work on lt2.0 FW but XGD3 games will not play unless truncated. Even after using burnermax payload tool and a Ihas burner. I wanted to upgrade to lt2.01 and get XGD3 games working.
Martin C
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So I have my key from my working drive. Why is it when I flash a different drive using that key with FW lt2.01 it still wont play backups. Could it be as simple as changing a laser? Here is the jungle flasher log if that helps.
JungleFlasher 0.1.94 Beta (320)
Session Started Fri Aug 16 21:22:35 2013
This is a 32 bit process running on 2 x 32 bit CPUs
portio32.sys Driver Installed
portio32.sys Driver Started, thanks Schtrom !
Found 4 I/O Ports.
Found 2 Com Ports.
Found 2 windows drives C: F:
Found 0 CD/DVD drives
Key found in KeyDB at record (1 - FirmwareBACKUPSAMMY-MS28)
Key is: 102FF905113E4C53DCC494D8F77AE43A
Key has been tested and verified, thanks C4eva !
Drive is Samsung..
Sending Sammy_Un_Lock to Drive on port 0xD8A0
Stage 1, Complete!
Stage 2, Complete!
Stage 3, Complete!
Done!
Sending Vendor Intro
Requesting Device ID
Manufacturer ID: 0xBF
Device ID: 0xB6
Flash Name: SST(SST39SF020)
Flash Size: 262144 bytes
Sending Vendor Intro to port 0xD8A0
Parallel flash found with Status 0x70
Sending Device ID request to port 0xD8A0
Manufacturer ID: 0xBF
Device ID: 0xB6
Flash Name: SST(SST39SF020)
Flash Size: 262144 bytes
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\org-ms28a.bin
MD5 hash: 49d7f6f63c0abbf72f20b7444307b52e
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Scanning sector 0x4000 for keys
0x401A 00000000000000000000000000000000
2 keys populated
Reverting to last good key FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF found at
F/W file saved to origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
Loading firmware from buffer
Parse Failed !
Drive key @ 0x0000 00000000000000000000000000000000
Firmware Osig: []
Firmware is:
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
MD5 hash: 430662d5e686a448c1a67434ddb36177
Parse Failed !
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
MD5 hash: 430662d5e686a448c1a67434ddb36177
Parse Failed !
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\Samsung_Post_13141\SAM_OFW.bin
MD5 hash: e4b000f492df6b88406aad2ec3d705be
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Scanning sector 0x4000 for keys
0x401A BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x4044 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x406E BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x4098 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x40C2 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
0x4116 CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
0x4140 00000000000000000000000000000000
9 keys populated
0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC x 2
Reverting to last good key CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC found at 0x40EC
F/W file saved to OrigFWSamMS28-ConfirmedSAM-OFW.bin
Loading firmware from buffer
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: Stock
Key added to database
Auto-Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\LT-sammy-v2.01.bin
MD5 hash: d66252800c1c072bc612f2f72d1e3c76
Genuine LT v2.01
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x4044 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: LT v2.01
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
ID strings already match
Drive key @ 0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: Stock
Auto-Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\LT-sammy-v2.01.bin
MD5 hash: d66252800c1c072bc612f2f72d1e3c76
Genuine LT v2.01
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x4044 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: LT v2.01
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
ID strings already match
Spoofing Target
DVD Key already matches
ID strings already match
Getting Status from port 0xD8A0
Parallel flash found with Status 0x70
Writing target buffer to flash
Sending Chip Erase request to port 0xD8A0
Erasing:............
Writing Bank 0: ................
Writing Bank 1: ................
Writing Bank 2: ................
Writing Bank 3: ................
Flash Verification Test !
Reading Bank 0: ................
Reading Bank 1: ................
Reading Bank 2: ................
Reading Bank 3: ................
Write verified OK !
Sending Vendor Outro to port 0xD8A0
Sending Vendor Outro to port 0xD8A0
JungleFlasher 0.1.94 Beta (320)
Session Started Fri Aug 16 21:22:35 2013
This is a 32 bit process running on 2 x 32 bit CPUs
portio32.sys Driver Installed
portio32.sys Driver Started, thanks Schtrom !
Found 4 I/O Ports.
Found 2 Com Ports.
Found 2 windows drives C: F:
Found 0 CD/DVD drives
Key found in KeyDB at record (1 - FirmwareBACKUPSAMMY-MS28)
Key is: 102FF905113E4C53DCC494D8F77AE43A
Key has been tested and verified, thanks C4eva !
Drive is Samsung..
Sending Sammy_Un_Lock to Drive on port 0xD8A0
Stage 1, Complete!
Stage 2, Complete!
Stage 3, Complete!
Done!
Sending Vendor Intro
Requesting Device ID
Manufacturer ID: 0xBF
Device ID: 0xB6
Flash Name: SST(SST39SF020)
Flash Size: 262144 bytes
Sending Vendor Intro to port 0xD8A0
Parallel flash found with Status 0x70
Sending Device ID request to port 0xD8A0
Manufacturer ID: 0xBF
Device ID: 0xB6
Flash Name: SST(SST39SF020)
Flash Size: 262144 bytes
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\org-ms28a.bin
MD5 hash: 49d7f6f63c0abbf72f20b7444307b52e
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Scanning sector 0x4000 for keys
0x401A 00000000000000000000000000000000
2 keys populated
Reverting to last good key FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF found at
F/W file saved to origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
Loading firmware from buffer
Parse Failed !
Drive key @ 0x0000 00000000000000000000000000000000
Firmware Osig: []
Firmware is:
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
MD5 hash: 430662d5e686a448c1a67434ddb36177
Parse Failed !
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\origms28aSAM-OFW-Fixed.bin
MD5 hash: 430662d5e686a448c1a67434ddb36177
Parse Failed !
Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\Samsung_Post_13141\SAM_OFW.bin
MD5 hash: e4b000f492df6b88406aad2ec3d705be
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Scanning sector 0x4000 for keys
0x401A BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x4044 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x406E BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x4098 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x40C2 BBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
0x4116 CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
0x4140 00000000000000000000000000000000
9 keys populated
0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC x 2
Reverting to last good key CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC found at 0x40EC
F/W file saved to OrigFWSamMS28-ConfirmedSAM-OFW.bin
Loading firmware from buffer
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: Stock
Key added to database
Auto-Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\LT-sammy-v2.01.bin
MD5 hash: d66252800c1c072bc612f2f72d1e3c76
Genuine LT v2.01
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x4044 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: LT v2.01
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
ID strings already match
Drive key @ 0x40EC CEA71BBCCD9E1B39FFB67BB5597388FC
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: Stock
Auto-Loading firmware file C:\Documents and Settings\Curt Huber\Desktop\JungleFlasher v0.1.94 Beta (320)\firmware\LT-sammy-v2.01.bin
MD5 hash: d66252800c1c072bc612f2f72d1e3c76
Genuine LT v2.01
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
Drive key @ 0x4044 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Firmware Osig: [TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28]
Firmware is: LT v2.01
Spoofing Target
DVD Key copied to target
ID strings already match
Spoofing Target
DVD Key already matches
ID strings already match
Getting Status from port 0xD8A0
Parallel flash found with Status 0x70
Writing target buffer to flash
Sending Chip Erase request to port 0xD8A0
Erasing:............
Writing Bank 0: ................
Writing Bank 1: ................
Writing Bank 2: ................
Writing Bank 3: ................
Flash Verification Test !
Reading Bank 0: ................
Reading Bank 1: ................
Reading Bank 2: ................
Reading Bank 3: ................
Write verified OK !
Sending Vendor Outro to port 0xD8A0
Sending Vendor Outro to port 0xD8A0
Vinneh
VIP Member
Yes retail XGD3 games work I have Dragons Dogma plays fine on new drive flashed with lt 2.01, does that mean it could just need a new laser? Or possibly pot tweak?
OK just tried Saints Row 4 Truncated burn plays fine on old drive but new drive with lt2.01 reads loads up the title screen then says disc unreadable. Maybe I will just get a new laser and give that a try, they are cheap. In the mean time I am ready to try a pot tweak to this drive. I have my multimeter set to 20K Ohm and have read the laser it currently reads 4.52K ohm, Any suggestions on how much to tweak it down?
scott1503
VIP Member
Vinneh
VIP Member
Decrement it by .1KΩ to .5KΩ until it works, but don't go lower than 3KΩ.
Read more here :
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/show...-problems-How-to-POT-Tweak-Xbox-360-DVD-Laser
Original game plays fine but drive wont read backup of Saints Row. Not sure what that means, is it a bad laser or is it possible I might need to adjust some settings in ImgBurn or could a pot tweak help. I am using an Ihas drive with burnermax payload tool Have tried default settings and also tried just about every other method I have read about and no luck. Any suggestions? I'm stumped I end up having to truncate or overburn everything just to get anything to work. Is it possible the new drive I have needs a height adjustment as well as pot tweak. Seems like I have tried everything else.
Taijigamer2
VIP Member
Drive just needs a new laser simple as. Burnt discs are harder for the laser to read than retail. Hence why a pot tweak is sometimes needed after a flash. A new laser will solve this. In the mean time lot tweak but like Vinneh said don't go lower than 3kohm.
Is there any amount of change in K ohms that you would expect improvement example .4K ohms should read game or just turn down about .1-.2K ohms at a time then check if it reads backup?
Taijigamer2
VIP Member
Depends on how strong your laser is. Just go down by .1 or .2 at a time and check. This is only a temporary measure anyway and chances are the laser is gone altogether. Good luck. :smile:
meads1970
BANNED
Truncated!!!!!! move with the times and hey just a thought but has any1 mentioned just get a new laser:facepalm: