Help, don't know where i am going wrong.

spidermang

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So i installed my Xecuter 3 on thursday with a new 160GB WD hard drive. I got it working on that day, but the next day when i woke up i would go to turn it on and it would start, turn off 2 times then blank screen then it would start to frag. So i checked the forums and read around and was told to resolder the LPC points, so i did and like on thursday got it working again. But today when i woke up, i went to go try and turn it on again it did the same thing. I can't boot to the evoX dash and i cant boot to the normal dash. What is the problem, please i really need help. Should i check the solder points every where again??


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chickengas

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I am/was in the same boat as you. I have had to open my xobx several times to resolder bad points. Why do they just pop off?? Who knows. I can use my xbox for a month, two months or more, then one day, I go to turn it on, and NOTHING. The three solder points to check first are LPC pin #9, Pin #15, and the D0 point. Its usually one of those 3 that cause your box not to turn on. Even if it looks solid....take a needle nose pliers and gently push/pull on the LPC pins to see if they move at all. If they move, resolder them. 99.9% of the time, thats the problem. It sucks...I dont know why...but happens. Most likely it happens to most people here, however they have egos to maintain and would first point fingers and call your a newb or refer you to a previous post. This is a good place to get answers, but some people are here to just gloat about their soldering prowess...lol.

That was just a little frustration release...
 

icecreamguys

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A "good" soldered connection will not do what you are talking about.

A "bad" connection will.

In other words, if you are not making a good connection with your solder, you are just lucky that it works at all. As the mobo heats up, the solder "pops" off (as you put it)

When you solder, you need to make sure that you are heating up the pins on the pin header as well as the solder to ensure a good connection.

You solder should also look shiny also. If it looks dull, it is not a good connection.

Sounds like you are close, just keep practicing.
 

spidermang

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alright. thanks. I have my xbox plugged in without the cover on and i seem to see a red and blue light in my xbox, is that normal?
 

chickengas

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Mine just popped off again too. It seems #9 and #15 always pop off...I'm getting totally frustrated with this crap. I beleive its just poor implementation of installation.....time for the solderless option I guess
 

spidermang

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i jus resoldered my lpc for the second time today, went over and everything. It works, but i have a feelin that tomorrow when i wake up, i will have to be resoldering again :(. It works when i go to power up, blue logo and everything, but after a while when i press the power button, the chip will always be disabled and the logo will be red. The only way to get it going again is if i press the eject button. Well, i'll fill u guys in tomorrow and see fi the same problem happens again.
 

chickengas

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Thats what happened to me a lot....unless you really enjoy the frustration of wondering wheather your xbox will work day to day...I'd go for the Xapt3r. I just ordered one. The solder points are just to fine for me to want to deal with. You get a tad too much solder on it, or worse yet, continue to solder and resolder, your gonna ruin it. $27 delivered next day...the Xapt3r is a good deal and hopefully the last time I have to take my box apart.
 

spidermang

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spidermang said:
im getting one blue light and one red light from the chip. What does that mean??

edit: i inspected the chip closer and it seems that the 5.0v led is blue and the 3.3 v is blue also. So am i good for power?
 

chickengas

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I didnt think you should be getting a red light. I get one blue light and one flashing blue light...which i beleive means a bad solder connection on the LPC most likely #9 or #15...doesnt matter...I yanked it out.
 

hockeyboy02

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If you mean a red light on the X 5 switch thingy, where theres an X that glows different colors, you should get a Blue Lights behind the X, and a smaller blue light to the top right (which means the HD is working) but if u hold in the Power Button, it will disable the X3 Chip so u can use ur xbox as if the chip wasnt even there (the X will glow red, and the smaller light will be blue). but as chicken said before check ur pin header, and if u installed it correctly, becuz u gotta be patient to do this believe me.
 

Cheb41

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The 1 thing that saved me time I believe, after having trouble with 3.3v and then fraging about ten times is a solder sucker. With this I was able to remove the old solder and apply new. Like Hockeyboy said pe patient, do what it takes to get it working. You will not regret it, good luck!!

Hope this helps!!
 

spidermang

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thanks guys for all the replies :) . Anyways, it has been workin from day one, i jus didnt realize. Heres what i think is happening. I think there is a bug for either the bios or evox? Because when i played it for the first time, i would play for a while then i would use the "in game reset", it would go to the black screen and freeze. So i turn it off , then turned it on, then get FRAGED. So last night, i got it up running again, and after a while of playing for a while i would jus press the power button to turn off the xbox and power up again if i waned to get back to the dashboard. So today when i woke up i went to turn it on, and it worked and i didnt get fraged. So, basically, i can't use the in game reset for games, else it will frag. :(
 

chickengas

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I dont think you've found a problem....ever her of superstitions? It sound like you've tried to intellecutalize a physical solder problem into one of superstitious obsessive complulsive behavior. It sounds like you feel that if you play for a given period of time, then shut your box off by using the power button instead of the solftware reset, you will avoid the fragging. Not so. I have not had any problem using the in game resets at all. In fact, I have had the frozen black screen like you....but unlike you, I was able to shut it off and turn back on again. Simple fact is...the heating and cooling of your xbox put stress on bad solder points. Eventually...it will not turn on. Makes no difference if you soft reset it, or turn it on and off. If it has time to cool over night...and the motherboard cools, it contracts....when it does..a bad solder point will crack or pop off and your box wont boot. Sorry to lay it on you...but dont think that but not using the reset, that your going to avoid a frag. The only way to avoid it, is to have good solder points. Period.