Reading this topic has worried me a little, Im stopping flashing. I didn't get that many to do anyway.
Illegal Xboxes 'worth £500,000' seized in Birmingham
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The way that Trading Standards, FACT & ELSPA look @ the value of things i.e COPIED games, is an overall "amount" that may have been made, & what it has cost the industry, NOT what the stuff they have siezed is actually worth !
If this person, who was busted, has dvd duplicators *copyboxes*, several thousand blank dual layer discs etc*, they take a look into, what the costs to the industry would be, so for instance, if they found 200 copies of DUKE NUKEM, they take it into account of 200 x £40, whicj is £8000, not the value of the blank discs, which is about £26 if using cheap media !!
This person or persons, have obviously making profit, from this venture, & have been "watched" for a while, and have probably have had "test purchases" made by TS, as for the 450 copied games, that's not alot really, but having 250 modified consoles, that is - it proves to FACT & TS, that they are quite regularly selling modified to circumnavigate electronic devices.
This can carry a 10 year sentence, for SERIOUS MIS-USE OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT
If this person, who was busted, has dvd duplicators *copyboxes*, several thousand blank dual layer discs etc*, they take a look into, what the costs to the industry would be, so for instance, if they found 200 copies of DUKE NUKEM, they take it into account of 200 x £40, whicj is £8000, not the value of the blank discs, which is about £26 if using cheap media !!
This person or persons, have obviously making profit, from this venture, & have been "watched" for a while, and have probably have had "test purchases" made by TS, as for the 450 copied games, that's not alot really, but having 250 modified consoles, that is - it proves to FACT & TS, that they are quite regularly selling modified to circumnavigate electronic devices.
This can carry a 10 year sentence, for SERIOUS MIS-USE OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT
cmon who was it.........hands up..........oh you can't, they're firmly fixed behind your back, lol.
Seriously though, you get more time for this kind of stuff than REAL crimes, like the two that were sentenced today in the UK for a masive bust on Child p*rn images and only got 33 months each.
Our rules,regulations and sentences in the UK are in dire need of a rethink!!
Seriously though, you get more time for this kind of stuff than REAL crimes, like the two that were sentenced today in the UK for a masive bust on Child p*rn images and only got 33 months each.
Our rules,regulations and sentences in the UK are in dire need of a rethink!!
You're absolutely right. However this bit
Is only valid if you replace stock with stock. Flashing with something other than stock, in EU, is illegal. In the US it isn't.
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mcornbill
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I think I know who these guys are. I'm another flasher in Birmingham and now I'm thinking of shutting down the website :-(
I flash for free that is not a crime as long as they dont see any money pass. They buy thier own store brought games and copy them to pertect from straches if i had 100 xboxes
60 quid for an illegal copy Uber ?? thats kinda of defeating the pirate`s object isnt it ?? i think you prob mean 6 quid right ??
Ah right so that was you outside by the Mc Donalds in Stoke.i might stop flashing my bits in public but thats about it.
BGAMods
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You're making it a bit easy for yourself there. The European Union Copyright Directive (EUCD = InfoSoc) is a vague directive that opens up alot of exclusion possibilities for the individual EU-country. The full text is available via EurLex and well worth a read. But be aware that you will also need knowledge of your local laws to fully grasp the situation in your country. As I know only the very basics of Portuguese legal system, I can't help you there, I'm afraid.
Possibly alot, I'm afraid. If you consider flashing CFW generelly illegal, then the X360 USB Pro would probably fall under Art. 6 II c) EUCD.
But even if it doesn't, it's missing vital tests and signatures that prevents legal commercial trading of it in the EU. Basically each of your EU resellers could be fined for selling them, which would most likely end in immediate bankruptcy of said reseller. But I already reported that to staff a few weeks back.
Sure it's vague, as most laws are. However, it's clearly distinctive that any infringement of anti-circumvention measures put in place to avoid copyright theft is illegal. And that's what we do.
The InfoSoc Directive has been applied everywhere, with the exception of some regions of Spain, due to autonomous issues.
Well, a EU-directive is not technically a "law". A regulation on the other hand, would be.
Laws aren't generally vague, they are abstract. That's a big difference. A good law is abstract while having enough content to make sure every situation X can be answered with a definitive outcome Y.
I highly disagree there. If at all, it clearly states that not every circumvention of such measures is illegal.
Mind you, I'm not saying it's legal. I'm just saying you need to actually perform an in-depth analysis of the per-country situation to come to any conclusion.
Edit: With "vague" I meant the technical side of the EUCD. The possibilities of exclusions are a completely different point that touches the national application of the directive. Sorry if that wasn't clear from my first post. As I said, the full text is available for free and well worth reading.
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WalangAlam
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ok guys just ship your xbox to us and we will do the flashing
250 wow. If I flash just 200 x ...
250 wow. If I flash just 200 x ...
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