I'm looking to buy a switch for modding but have a question about console bans.

glh290

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I've been modding consoles for a while but the last console I modded was a xbox360. My main question is with the switch is there something similar to a xbox360 cpu key that If I have a spare clean key I can import into a banned system essentially "unban" the system. I still plan on getting a switch to mod, but if my son somehow gets the system online when I'm not looking I'd feel a bit more comfortable if there is a "cpu key"esk thing with the switch.
 

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As of right now there is no way to unban a switch. Not that I have seen.
 

glh290

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good to know, I will keep that in mind. If there is ever a release of a thing like the xbox360 cpu key I'm prepared lol I have 5 essentially dead switches from amazon liquidations that wont really work as consoles but definitely work as spare parts lol. I'm aware I can refurbish them but to me they are more useful as parts.
 

dominicanjonas

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With SX OS stealth mode you shouldn’t have to worry about your kid accidently going online, it will simply not connect to the nintendo servers. I’ve always had it active and sometimes hitted the online multiplayer on Mario Kart by mistake and nothing happened thanks to the stealth mode.
 

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That is true, but even that is not 100% unfortunately. I would just leave airplane mode on unless you are playing docked or trying to FTP homebrew to the console.
 

Elliander

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For added safety, I would also make sure that your WiFi has a password and that the Switch doesn't have the password. It wouldn't protect against other WiFi networks, or mobile hotspots, but it would be a layer of protection. The kid could disable Stealth mode, but without knowing the WiFi password can't go online.

For some games, turning off WiFi can break things. For example, we can't play Minecraft split-screen unless WiFi is turned on for some strange reason, and both profiles have to have been connected to a Nintendo account online at some point, so we have to turn off airplane mode in order to play even offline which is all the more reason to keep the Switch from knowing the WiFi password and keeping it in Stealth mode.

Now that emuNAND is on the microSD card, I do feel like it will eventually be (mostly) safe to go online in sysNAND OFW, keeping Homebrew and backups on the CFW and games for playing online handy for inserting, so at some point in the future I will take the Switch online and basically use the combination of Stealth Mode and WiFi passwords to separate the modes of play, but if a ban ever does happen I know it will be much more difficult to find a hackable Switch. For that reason I would also love to have a way of changing the console keys, although just changing them wouldn't be enough because then the NAND would act like someone restored the NAND from a different switch. We'd need a way to both change the console keys and also change the NAND backups to work with the new keys.

What you could do is purchase a used banned Switch. Unfortunately, most people aren't going to advertise the console as banned and Nintendo would never unban one you bought even if you didn't know when buying, but it would probably be cheaper to buy one that is already banned and let a kid have that rather than taking the risk and trying to find a new hackable Switch later.
 
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Widowmaker

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I've been modding consoles for a while but the last console I modded was a xbox360. My main question is with the switch is there something similar to a xbox360 cpu key that If I have a spare clean key I can import into a banned system essentially "unban" the system. I still plan on getting a switch to mod, but if my son somehow gets the system online when I'm not looking I'd feel a bit more comfortable if there is a "cpu key"esk thing with the switch.
nope, theres nothing like KVs for the switch
 

gavin_darkglide

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With a lot of work, there is the possibility of what you are asking, but you would need to be able to spoof all the keys that are retrieved from the fuses when the bootloader launches in software, and then have the consoles nand encrypted with the keys you are spoofing. And if that worked, since the data that got you banned is still in your nand image, you would have to find a way to clear all of the reports, and stuff that goes back to nintendo. Hince why emunand with DNS blocking(Stealth Mode) is the way to go on that. Even if reports are generated, they are stored in the emunand, so when playing on stock nand, you dont have to worry about them getting sent to Nintendo.
 

Adobe

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Couldn't you in theory, Have two SD cards? One for CFW / Mods and one for Legit OS to play? and switch out the SD cards to play online, since the mod loads off of the SD card Or does this mod install a file somewhere that Nintendo can see and Ban it?
 

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Couldn't you in theory, Have two SD cards? One for CFW / Mods and one for Legit OS to play? and switch out the SD cards to play online, since the mod loads off of the SD card Or does this mod install a file somewhere that Nintendo can see and Ban it?
Yes, but once you run CFW even on emunand I believe there is no guarantee that you will not get banned. You also run the risk of accidentally installing a newer firmware and ending up like a lot of people right now with the 6.2 update.