ANSWERED Is there will be Xgd4 in new Games?

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If there is such a thing as XGD4, I dont think M$ can do much more than XGD3 as that uses up the full dual layer disk nearly... Im sure C4eva will have something to say about the next M$ trick... He is always one step ahead.
 
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thanks for reply

i asked this question because i read from an untrusted source it will be XGD4 in Black ops 2

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I think MS wasted enough millions on XGD3 ;)

XGD3 pushed the boundaries, but if MS can fit more tracks on a disc, c4 can write a firmware to a) read it b) write it.

Just like XGD3.
 
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XGD3 was never designed as an anti-piracy measure. It's there to reclaim 1GB of wasted space from a DVD partition that's not needed any more.
 
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Sure it wasn't.....

I mean they didn't want to make the data partition unreplicable on burnable media without making a new fw squeeze more tracks onto a disc - something they probably only joked of as it was being coded.

Has any game used that space yet?
 
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Martin C said:
XGD3 was never designed as an anti-piracy measure. It's there to reclaim 1GB of wasted space from a DVD partition that's not needed any more.
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I assume you're being sarcastic. It's borderline undetectable though. Just like LT+.
 
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(I actually have no idea if you're serious as I don't have any extracted games)

/blushes

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But didn't topology stuff come with XGD3? Surely the topology verifications didn't aid the reclamation of wasted space. It was for better anti-piracy checks I thought.
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ap2.5 was in xgd2, too.
 
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OggyUK said:
(I actually have no idea if you're serious as I don't have any extracted games)

/blushes
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You can check size of games post-install by checking Settings/Storage ;)
 
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OggyUK said:
(I actually have no idea if you're serious as I don't have any extracted games)

/blushes

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ap2.5 was in xgd2, too.
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But ap2.5 was defeated without Burner Max. So something obviously changed when XGD3 came in. Random topology checks?

EDIT: I think maybe I'm wrong and ap2.5 wasn't defeated without Burner Max. All I know is that at one point the checks were predictable and Burner Max was required (apart from the truncation problem) due to the introduction of 'random' checks.

EDIT2: I think what I've said is BS. If I had less honour I'd delete my utterances to hide my ignorance.
 
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There are no topology checks, lol.

Martin C said:
You can check size of games post-install by checking Settings/Storage ;)
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I have;

Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Guitar Hero World Tour
PGR4
Trivial Pursuit
Burnout Paradise
Assassins Creed (no idea what one)

If any of them get anywhere near 7gb I'll be amazed.
 
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AP2.5 changed method in the run-up to the metro dash, but is included in all XGD3 titles. So yeah, I guess I'm being a little optimistic in thinking the change was made for our benefit!
 
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Sarcasm is wasted on me.
 
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