GENERAL is this soldering bad?

[Dimrain13]

Ive had it worse than this and it worked (and yes i watched the how to solder video) still getting now flash detected...

and

2 different soldering times. nothing worked no flash controller detected..is it me? of was my nand-x DOA? i got it today.

 

[dragontm]

to be honest looks like there is dust everywhere, did you clean the board before you soldered?

Regarding the solder it does look a tad messy to me, did you tin the wires? this would of made it alot cleaner when getting them wires to the points

 

[xbox360 hacker]

the soldering is poor flux is your friend and there is no need to have that much wire exposed looks like there could be some bridging on the first pic

 

[Dimrain13]

yes i tinned the wires .. but i didnt clean it... anything besides alcohol that will work?

 

[x360ccm]

i was goin to say looks like board has been stored in a damp shed or something.

 

[xbox360 hacker]

clean the board as much as you want but unless you start using flux it could always fail with poor soldering joints

 

[yamackbuddy4]

Also to make it a bit easier for you. Use solid wire at the tips. This way you can penetrate the solder on the board easily. Flux as mentioned above is also great to use.

 

[Martin C]

you should have no more than 1-2mm of wire exposed at the ends. Any more and you run the risk of bridging.

There def looks like you could have a bridge on J1B2. Failing that, remove all wires, clean the points with flux and desoldering braid and inspect very carefully.

To answer your question, yes - it's VERY bad.

 

[Dimrain13]

will do, ill be working on it for a while longer. ill try everything that was mentioned :smile:

 

[V3nn3tj3]

If it's a nand-x, why not go for the QSP? there easy to install...

 

[Blackhistory4U]

Yes.... it's your soldering bro! Follow the MartinC's advise and take you time even if it takes a while, the end result is what you want to be good.

 

[Dimrain13]

ok so its 3 am and i want to go to bed...(no pun intended) so far things have just got worse. now it wont even boot up and it give me nothing no lights.. red rings... and i noticed i dropped solder onto it while installing the Aud_clap method.went to take it off and now nothing... messed with that for about 2 hours and got tired. so.. now sleep. i will post pics in the morning.. the part i got solder on looked like the far point for the Aud_clamp.


BTW: I stoped with the nandx for a while.

 

[Neverzinho]

Well let us see that, also never do something like this when tired. Always do it with a fresh mind.

 

[Blackhistory4U]

ok so its 3 am and i want to go to bed...(no pun intended) so far things have just got worse. now it wont even boot up and it give me nothing no lights.. red rings... and i noticed i dropped solder onto it while installing the Aud_clap method.went to take it off and now nothing... messed with that for about 2 hours and got tired. so.. now sleep. i will post pics in the morning.. the part i got solder on looked like the far point for the Aud_clamp.


BTW: I stoped with the nandx for a while.

PATIENCE BRO! :wink:

 

[C43Mi57]

I hope this is not the console you are hoping to jtag? your best bet would of been to get a old dead console or something to practice on (you can still read nand from a 3 rrod console)

also when you are trying to read nand do you have power plugged in (DO NOT TURN ON just plug it in)

 

[Dimrain13]

I hope this is not the console you are hoping to jtag? your best bet would of been to get a old dead console or something to practice on (you can still read nand from a 3 rrod console)

also when you are trying to read nand do you have power plugged in (DO NOT TURN ON just plug it in)

i understand this.. but what would happen if it was plugged in? didnt happen but im curious.

 

[syst3merror]

you are SUPPOSE to have it plugged in to power...just not turned on or you can mess up the nand-x

 

[mcornbill]

i understand this.. but what would happen if it was plugged in? didnt happen but im curious.

Hi Dimrain

As syst3merror has said, you need to have the RF (Ring of Light) board plugged into the motherboard, and the PSU plugged into the motherboard, when trying to dump your nand to the PC. The motherboard does not need to be switched on, the power brick should be on an orange light.

As a lot of people have said the soldering is pretty bad, if your solder is decent and you have flux then it looks to me like your soldering iron is maybe shot. Is the soldering iron tip in good nick? If it can't get up to a good temperature then you often find that you can melt your own solder, but it won't melt and mix with the existing solder contained within the header holes. It then ends up just sitting on top like you have in your pictures. Also cheap lead free solder doesn't flow like the good old leaded days!

If you have the NAND-X qsb's then use them as you will probably find them the easiest method. If not then get some solid core wire (not stranded), 0.75mm diameter is good, and extend your existing NAND-X wires with it leaving about 1cm exposed at each end. You can then press the solid wire onto each pin hole, whilst applying the soldering iron tip to the pin hole or wire itself. After a few seconds the pin hole solder should give way and the wire should pass straight through nicely for you. If it doesn't, then apply the solder tip to the underside of the board pin holes and repeat the same tactic.

You'll get there Dimrain, as everybody has said just be patient, definitely worth honing your soldering skills on a junk board you can practice on.

I take it you haven't been applying the soldering iron to the points underside of the board have you? If you have check to make sure that none of the traces have been lifted.

Cheers
Mark

 

[Neverzinho]

What an awesome post you made there mcornbill. While i'm probably a little ahead of Dimrain in terms of soldering, I'm still pretty new in this world. I've enjoyed reading your post.

 

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