RGH J-Runner "Can not continue" after Read Nand or Flash ECC

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Dublicious I disagree with you. Skill does not come from watching a video. It Amazes me that people spend money on all the parts needed to RGH including soldering equipment that have never soldered before. Any individual will save themselves money by simply taking it to someone with experience.
Telling people that it is easy is false. It is easy with the right tools, knowledge, and a small amount of skill.
The more people that find out about this mod the more burned up boards we will see. It is more than simply having a soldering iron and some flux. I guarantee that most modders here have all kinds of tools on their bench that aid in installs such as magnifying equip etc.
Same thing happened back in ps2 days. Dads ordering chips and soldering equipment to do their kids machines and making a huge mess of the mainboards. The flip side for modders is you get the repair charge out as well as the modchip install charge out.

Perhaps this should be stickied to show unskilled persons what happens. I appreciate that the OP nutted up about his mistake but the mistake came long before resoldering the NAND wires. A tiny bit of knowledge regarding the mod and the wires would never have been removed.

As suggested. Everything needs to be removed and cleaned to see if you actually still have a working Xbox.
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And let me guess your a professional at everything you attempt right? Right!

Not attempting to high-jack the thread here! What you are saying is absolutely uncalled for! Sticky this thread to make everyone aware... d**k move! This is supposed to be a forum of friendly knowledgeable individuals it even states it on the website. But when you get a comment as such of what you have posted to an individual coming forth asking for help.. You make TX look like a bunch of douche-bags unwilling to support the people that support them....

Its what it is. I think Martin C's solder vids are a great place to start and with a little practice OP could have done a better job of an RGH.... Thats all!!
 
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Wow this is bad. Looks like you have burned the points on top. Get yourself a new soldering iron before you try to continue. Then solder nandx wires under the board cause the points on top are burned.
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I will buy some new tips or a small iron, to work with those small points. But if the upper points are burned, but the board is not damaged, will soldering the wires on the other side of the board make the nand-x work?i didnt thik of that, cause i have very little understanding about the circuits and all that.

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I give you some serious credit man. Most people would just chalk it up to embarrassment. You came on the forum, posted your story, your pictures, and took on the crow'd like a true man. While you did do a shotty solder job, I would say that bravery was a big part in the xbox360 demise! You should not hang your head in shame!

Do as the other members have specified. Clean up the mess post pictures and follow further instructions carefully. You should be up and running soon. If not than contact a professional to help you. Thats what this forum is about.
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Well i know i made a mistake, i always admit if i dont do something right and i don't think people in this forum will laugh a lot. Its just what happened because of my impatience, lack of skills and overall "i want to learn myself" pose.

Rome 16:16 said:
TBH, it would be useless cleaning your mess and do the same mistake again. It was obvious that the practice you did was not enough. Before you repeat doing the install again, do some more soldering practice and research. Just an advise.
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I will absolutely do that, because i see what has happened and i cannot waste money like that.

Martin C said:
A very interesting method of learning to solder. Probably an expensive one too.

Just an FYI - removing all the solder work you've done to it won't necessarily make it work again. There's a strong chance you've permanently damaged the board.

I wish I had $150 to throw away on learning to solder. The daft thing is I could have actually taught someone to solder for half the cost on a 1:1 basis.

An expensive lesson here : Walk before you can run.
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Well, if the board is messed up, i will still be able to sell the 250gb hdd and all of the parts for like half the price i paid for the console.

Martin C said:
The key to good soldering (like most things) is technique.

Watching someone else solder is key as without this, you're just guessing how to do it. The soldering videos help as it gives you an idea of how long it should take and what order to the objects go to the point in question (flux, iron then wire).

I agree though, it's not something you should try as a first attempt and learning on a working console should be a no-no.
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Well my father showed me the technique, however i was like "okay i got it". Again, its the impatience, i have to work on this...

Now about the board, like i said, i soldered everything fine the first time, but when you resolder it 6 more times i think any board would have some trouble operating afterwars, especially when its done by a soldering noob like me. The stores dont work today, so ill just go and buy some alcohol tomorrow. Huge thanks to everyone for your comments and help!
HAPPY EASTER.
 
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I give you credit for trying. Some guys on here are harsh as I'm sure they have never ruined a point or a trace. Watching a few videos helps. Search YouTube as well for soldering videos. Martin makes it look easy - which it is with experience, and it won't take long with a decent solder iron and FLUX FLUX FLUX. You should try and pick up some good flux (kingbo, amtech or quikchip) as it will make your job much easier.

Good luck and give you credit for acting more professional than half the people replying to you thread.




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Okay so i have bought 99% Isopropyl Alcohol today and cleaned up the mess. Here are the pictures. I donno why my camera wont allow me to take very close snapshots :/ if you need closer look, then i will try to do it with my mobile.
 
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|One more pic, this is as close as it gets with this SLR. Now i removed all the wires and tried to plug the xbox to power and turn it on. However all i hear is a beep, no lights, no other sounds, no nothing, so i guess the board is screwed, i am screwed :)
 
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Pics? Check my sticky. they're taken with a £40 camera, so a DSLR should be a doddle.

3 causes of this problem

1. Corrupt SMC on NAND.
2. Damaged STBY_CLK trace.
3. Blown resistor on STBY_CLK line.
 
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Martin C said:
Pics? Check my sticky. they're taken with a £40 camera, so a DSLR should be a doddle.

3 causes of this problem

1. Corrupt SMC on NAND.
2. Damaged STBY_CLK trace.
3. Blown resistor on STBY_CLK line.
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Ill have to play with DSLR's settings then, cause it wont allow me to take pics from very close.

1. How to fix the corrupt SMC?
2. Which number on the board represents the STBY_CLK?, cause i think some of the solder might have fallen on it.
 
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Okay Martin, i will post a better pic with your advice ;) yeah i googled before i asked you, but most of the pics were from phat consoles, so i wanted a direct answer :) Thank you for the help.All in all, if the xbox still wont work, i will just bring it to a pro and he will put a verdict on this console.
 
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Today i brought the motherboard to a pro and he just replaced it with a working motherboard, which was rgh'd already. So the story of this xbox ends here. Next time, i will practice more on dead boards :) Thank you all for replies ;)
 
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Ok guys, i have bought myself a new slim to play with :) So now i soldered the nand-x wires to the board and jrunner reads everything, however all 4 attempts give me these error codes while in process:
Error: 258 reading block 280
Error: 250 reading block 281
Error: 258 reading block 282
Error: 250 reading block 283
Error: 258 reading block 284
All of the dumps match though, so am i safe to continue with further steps rgh'ing my xbox :)?
 
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Martin C said:
Click on the bad blocks tab in J-Runner. What does it say?
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It said no bad blocks found. However it doesnt matter now, i continued and my console is now officially RGH'd!!! Thank you for the help you provided, the second try was lucky so i hope i'll continue that way :p
 
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