sp4rkst4rt3r, thnx very much for all your help, i just been informed he bought it off ebay listed as a faulty drive and bought a new drive to go in it, now on 4 different jf i have had same key in log even though it fails saying it aint a liteon and when i flash the benq with the key i just get play dvd, so i think its rather not the actually key for the box im getting off the spoofed liteon or its the laser on the benq, gonna flash benq with 0800 and rip a game that will clear laser prob up i hope, if that works i can only think he been conned outta 30 quid on ebay and ill give him a tenner for the benq to rip games saves me opening my liteon up everytime i need a backup