Live works with Zone Alarm off, but not with it on.

halomaster7777

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I have my xbox connected to my computer through a crossover cable. Whenever I try to connect to live with Zone Alarm on, I get an DNS error, but when I turn zone alarm off it works fine. What could be causing this? Xbox also dosen't connect to internet through avalaunch with zone alarm on.
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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if you havent placed your network in you trusted zone with zone alarm then it will block those quietly as hacking attempts. to place it in the trusted zone you must turn off your computer unplug the network cable boot it up, turn it off, reattach the cable boot up. zonealarm will great u with a happy popup saying OMG NEW NETWORK BEOTCH!!!! then you say OMG PUT IT IN TEH TRUZTDIZLLE ZONE YO!!!! yeah and then your good to go
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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if it works for you then you give me reputation points in which i am sorely lacking
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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I would also like to say that THANK YOU for pointing out the difference between hacker and cracker in you sig. us hackers have been given such a bad name :(
 

sirshady420

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Sounds good...

That sounds good to me...Also I think you may be able to add a connection as well!!!??
 

linuxn00b2004

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You know, that is a really interesting problem! I don't have ZoneAlarm, I have McAfee, and always had a few glitches trying to FTP it. It always eventually works, but I don't change any settings and it will eventually connect. Kinda random. But as far as Zone Alarm goes:

I modded my friend's box and tried to FTP using his computer at his house. Nothing I tried worked. This went on for a few days. Eventually, he began trying to FTP himself, and he got it to work by enabling ZoneAlarm, but it would NOT work with ZoneAlarm disabled. Go figure.

- Greg

EDIT: I know you got the problem fixed, I was just mentioning my experience with ZoneAlarm.
 
RoaZtedPuppy said:
I would also like to say that THANK YOU for pointing out the difference between hacker and cracker in you sig. us hackers have been given such a bad name :(
WTF have you hacked? You bought a premade chip, followed instructions, and installed some software ... and how is that different to a script kiddie?

Modding is closer to being a cracker than a hacker.

TeamXecuter - hackers ... they did the clever stuff.
RoaztedPuppy - post whore ... three posts back to back that say nothing, and still his reputation SUCKS :D
 

IvanK

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"US" considered hackers???

Funny. When you look at half of the people on this forum, we're using someone else's hacked software and complain loudly when we can't get it to work or it's not updated quickly enough.

WE are NOT hackers. Our behavior is typically closer to the script kiddies.

Following a tutorial (with PICTURES!) that provides instruction on how to install a piece of manufactured equipment into an xbox and then placing a file obtained from the internet on that chip is NOT hacking. We are, as they say, stupid end users. Maybe slightly better informed than the non-modding-community, but not necessarily any smarter.

I really don't want to be a ***** about this but I felt compelled to give a much needed reality check to those who consider themselves hackers but:

1. Lack any real low-level coding skills
2. Wait for someone elses solutions/apps instead of writing their own
3. Think that editing ini or xml files by hand is "hardcore"

Do I consider myself a hacker? HELL NO. I'm a guy who managed to figure out how to make good use of other people's code without a whole lot of difficulty. I'll admit that being a professional programmer makes editing xml or ini files second nature, but I also realize the utility in being able to use an installer to get something running quickly and then tweaking that install.

I do however get a bit of a thrill knocking down self-styled VB gurus and people who think a smattering of php or perl without any discipline or education (yes, for most people coming into the field today a good uni education is one hell of a good start and even then not enough by itself to find a good job) makes them 3l337.

Now the real hackers are the ones who busted out a bios or performed some act of reverse-engineering to understand something that didn't have a feature-rich API lay it out in front of them like breadcrumbs. I can think of perhaps 5 teams on the xbox-scene that would qualify as "hackers". The rest of them may be extremely talented developers, but at the end of the day they're leveraging documentation (either legitimate docs or docs/knowledge created/obtained by other groups) and their education and applying a lot of problem solving and discipline to a problem. They are in many cases HUGELY talented and very intelligent, but I'd argue they aren't hackers. Even the Linux crowd aren't so much hackers as they are disciplined (and quite bright) programmers who are putting their education to good use.

So please, don't banter about the term hacker, and try to not apply it to us. It's just disrespectful to the real hackers.
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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I actually do know how to program. I don't consider myself especially good, but I really shouldn't be any better at age 14.

I know:
small amounts of assembly code
ok amounts of C++
pretty much mastered javascript
even less PERL than assembly
and some python

I'm not so much bragging about myself or claiming to be a master programmer as much as I am refuting IvanK's argument
 

RoaZtedPuppy

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After reading the remainder of IvanK's post i realize my argument didn't refute his. Your definition of hacker is a little bit to narrow. by me simply DoS attacking my friends for kicks, I have qualified myself as a hacker. and I can pretty much say that every mod chip designer out there is a hacker except for xenium because they dont make their own BIOSes.
 

halomaster7777

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IvanK I put that in my profile, becuase it pisses me off that the media portrays hackers as bad people who are out to ruin your computer, and do other naughty acts, but you make a good point. Because your someone I repsect I'll remove that from my sig.
 

IvanK

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RoaZtedPuppy said:
by me simply DoS attacking my friends for kicks, I have qualified myself as a hacker.
Not quite. Using some script you found online to perform a DoS qualifies you as a script kiddie or a cracker, particularly because you're doing something to be destructive. Understanding exactly what that script is doing, why it works (in greater detail than saying "buffer overrun" or "buffer underrun" and being able to apply that knowledge elsewhere (i.e. write your own code or script or find your own security flaw or reverse engineer something non-trivial) would make you a hacker.

If you can program a bit at 14, great. I started about that time myself although the languages du jour were basic and pascal on the Mac.

halomaster - I appreciate the respect although I don't really think I've done anything to deserve it. Your sig was fine for the most part; I don't have any problems with drawing the distinction between hackers and crackers, I just don't think any of us users qualify as hackers, so I merely questioned the use of "Us".

Anyway, per Xecuter's long but correct editorial, I've sworn off arguing on the internet for a while. :)