Loose contact on X3ce

[michael_j_w]

First I know how to solder this is NOT a soldering issue, please do not tell me to re-solder the pin header to the mb.

The issue is that when the chip is put into the xbox (1.6) it works great, but after installing the drives it no longer functions. I took the drives out and low and behold, the 3.3v led was not on. I repositioned the chip and turned the xbox back on, this time the led did come on. After some experimentation, it was confirmed that the ide cable was moving the chip about 1.5mm down on the opposite side from the pin header, this is the cause of the problem. As far as I can tell, the plug on the X3 is on properly. What should I do -- I only want to install this with the pin header option. who should I contact?

By the way the chip is still un-flashed.


Thank you,
Michael

 

[Shibz2]

well, all i can say is if you want to do a wire install, be really careful when you remove the pin header, its really easy to pull out traces. I completly destroyed my lpc on my old mobo pulling out the pin header

 

[nutsak]

problem: loose pin header connection.
solution: check and resolder pinheader.

i know you don't want to hear this, but it's the only possible soulution.

 

[michael_j_w]

I have rechecked the pin header it is cemented in place "figuratively", all connections have solder wicking up the pins, no burned patches, and I cleaned the area with copper braid to remove any splatter. This is a very good soldering job. Also, this is my secound X3 chip in this xbox, the first was just sold to a friend so i could upgrade to the X3ce that just came out. Furthermore, my first chip had no issues with the 3.3v lead. btw does anyone know off the top of there head which pin on the lpc is the 3.3v?

I have come up with a temporary work around by rerouting the ide cable but i don't know if i should try to exchange the chip or hope that nothing else happens with this one.

Thank you to everyone for there thoughts on this.

 

[nutsak]

there is a sticky that shows the LPC pinout. try searching for your answers before posting questions and maybe you will get somewhere.

 

[michael_j_w]

I did search the forum and google for the point of my thread!! if you, nutsak, would like to show me a post that would have resolved my issue go ahead---you can't. If however you are refering to me asking about the the lpc bus, I am quite well aware that it is a open archetecture and that i could easily find the info. My post should have made it clear to any ADULT that i was not asking to be spoon fed but merely saying that if any one knew OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD what the answer was they were welcome to post it. My number of post may be low but i am not a noobie you 12 year old post counting bitch.

 

[nutsak]

I did search the forum and google for the point of my thread!! if you, nutsak, would like to show me a post that would have resolved my issue go ahead---you can't. If however you are refering to me asking about the the lpc bus, I am quite well aware that it is a open archetecture and that i could easily find the info. My post should have made it clear to any ADULT that i was not asking to be spoon fed but merely saying that if any one knew OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD what the answer was they were welcome to post it. My number of post may be low but i am not a noobie you 12 year old post counting bitch.

i am 28 BTW, and don't be a d**k because your too lazy to use the SEARCH button.

here:

And here:
http://www.teamxecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23450&highlight=3.3v
And for even more help:
link to install help
And here is a must for you:
http://www.epemag.com/solderfaq/pictures.htm



IF THERE IS ONLY ONE LED LIT UP THEN THE CHIP WON'T WORK.
if there isn't the correct voltage to pins 6,9 and 15 the chip will not work.
your soldering is probabally not as good as you think it is. that is what would cause it to not get the correct voltage. period. if you don't want to take that advice, then fix it yourself.

if there is solder "wicking" up the pins, does it go DOWN INSIDE in and around the rings?!?!?!?

check the pinheader for bent pins. theck the female on the chip for debris.

 

[xXLoganXx]

Ditto Nutsak! Hey is that a real quote from Mrballiwhoo? I tried looking in the members area under all his posts, but for some reason it won't let you. That is by far the best thing I have ever read! lmao!

 

[nutsak]

yes it is and that thread has been deleted.
it was quite the funny thing to read too! i left it how he posted it, typo's and all.
LOL
i don't use fake quotes in my sig. the next time i come acrost one like that, it will take that poor guy's place in my sig of shame.



and ppl like this ^ up there, they always know it isn't their solder.
i thought it wasn't my solder too! it was!!! i had my chip quit working (no power to 3.3v) after 3 months, turns out it was my soldering!! it had just enough to make a tiny connection to the pin and filally just quit. i resoldered and yay it works!!

you need to SEE the solder run down the pin a little and in and around the rings.

 

[Redneck]

lol that guy is an idiot, its ur soldering, are ur the 12 yr old, ....57Up1d n00b

 

[michael_j_w]

I apologize to nutsak. My post was made out of frustration. Your following post demonstrated a great deal of maturity and wisdom. Thank you for your help in this matter, I will check my soldering again. It looked good on the bottom side of the main board but how do you check if the solder flowed into the holes? Also, I am using the lpc rebuild for the 1.6, should I remove it and just run 30 gage wire to the contact points instead?

 

[Audi90Quattro]

Glad you could help Redneck. With 178 posts and a senior member you should of been able to help him without a problem.

Michael. Your post sounds alot like a problem I had when first installing my chip. The pinheader wasnt fully solderred. I took the drives out and noticed that only one of the leds was lighting up.

If you power up your box with chip installed and the drives out check for both leds. If only one of them are lit push gently on the left side of the chip pushing the chip onto the pinheader. If your light comes on you should retouch the pin header pins.

How did you install the chip? Did you use flux? When i went to touch up the pins I put some solder around the lpc holes and heated up the pins/holes at the same time. Then I just addes solder to the pin and viola, it sucked right into the holes and I've never had a problem since. Hope this helps, its something I would def check as it sounds like your problem.

 

[nutsak]

Glad you could help Redneck. With 178 posts and a senior member you should of been able to help him without a problem.

Michael. Your post sounds alot like a problem I had when first installing my chip. The pinheader wasnt fully solderred. I took the drives out and noticed that only one of the leds was lighting up.

If you power up your box with chip installed and the drives out check for both leds. If only one of them are lit push gently on the left side of the chip pushing the chip onto the pinheader. If your light comes on you should retouch the pin header pins.

How did you install the chip? Did you use flux? When i went to touch up the pins I put some solder around the lpc holes and heated up the pins/holes at the same time. Then I just addes solder to the pin and viola, it sucked right into the holes and I've never had a problem since. Hope this helps, its something I would def check as it sounds like your problem.

wow! sounds like what i just got done telling him. but he doesn't want to believe that it's his soldering. nice post BTW.

 

[Redneck]

i believe audi is madly in love with me and stalking me, every post that he has posted today has had my name in it. If your a hot girl, i appoligize for the things ive said to you, if not, **** off.........

 

[Audi90Quattro]

No im just showing you that earning posts,by helping people make you look much better than being a dumbass and replying with lol, interesting... etc.

 

[nutsak]

i believe audi is madly in love with me and stalking me, every post that he has posted today has had my name in it. If your a hot girl, i appoligize for the things ive said to you, if not, **** off.........

are you that sexy?
got a pic?

 

[Redneck]

hehe, seriously audi, i have never seen you before today, i am one of the main helpers (not in a helping mood today) and i help in the irc channel..........

 

[Redneck]

o yea, read my sig and make some cash!

 

[Uncle Jessie]

Thanks for the thread it fixed my problem. After installing my X3 I powered up without the drives and got a good boot with all three LEDs. Next day before installing the drives I thought I'd flash it before I install the drives and it booted into the original BIOS and I only had the 5V LED on the mod. I too thought I did a perfect solder job but I checked again everything looked fine under a magnifying glass. So I figured I'd start with pin 15 (3.3V). Sucked the solder off and right away I could tell it was bad. Tried to resolder it but the solder just wouldn't flow onto the ring. Finally, after several more tries I cleaned the solder off and pulled the pin out from the bottom. Took several tries but I finally got solder to flow onto the ring, problem was it filled the hole and I couldn't wick it out. So, I took the spare pin I'd pulled out (XBOX V1.6 install) and pushed it in from the top until it stopped. Then I heated up the solder on the bottom and had a friend push the pin the rest of the way in. Problem solved. I can wiggle the mod, slant the mod and move it any which way and I still get all three LEDs and a perfect boot each time.

In the future I'll prep the hole for pin 15 before I install the pin header and then the LPC rebuild board.