Microsoft Cracks Down on Xbox Changes
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"It's hard to know how many of Microsoft's 15.5 million Xbox users have modified their game consoles, although the percentage is believed to be small. "
Gahaha, small indeed. :twisted: My X3 is in the mail as we speak. :lol:
"Microsoft says it has focused its legal efforts on those it believes are manufacturing pirated games or mass-producing Xbox modifications. "
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"To modify it to the umpteenth degree is simply a byproduct of the geek culture of the hardcore gamer," McNealy said. "It should be good news for Microsoft that there's that much demand (for Xbox) that people want to spend so much time figuring that stuff out."
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Interesting article indeed... good to know they aren't lookin to sue people who mod, just kick'em off XBL... XBC > XBL anyways.
"It's hard to know how many of Microsoft's 15.5 million Xbox users have modified their game consoles, although the percentage is believed to be small. "
Gahaha, small indeed. :twisted: My X3 is in the mail as we speak. :lol:
"Microsoft says it has focused its legal efforts on those it believes are manufacturing pirated games or mass-producing Xbox modifications. "
k3rn3l > Microsoft
"To modify it to the umpteenth degree is simply a byproduct of the geek culture of the hardcore gamer," McNealy said. "It should be good news for Microsoft that there's that much demand (for Xbox) that people want to spend so much time figuring that stuff out."
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Interesting article indeed... good to know they aren't lookin to sue people who mod, just kick'em off XBL... XBC > XBL anyways.
lol if microsoft ban people they lose money :? they lose subsciprtion money and people will no longer buy games they will download them :-\
I take it people may be concerned about Team X and their fantastic work. Well, first off, just because Microsoft intends to "focus it's effort" doesn't mean they will have much success. Infact, it is a bold statement to target people that are mass-producing modifications...Does this include the pretty lights that you can install inside you new crystal box? I would say not.
So if thatis the case then what can be said about the X3, for instance. Well I may be wrong but the X3 is shipped with a legal BIOS for the purpose of modifying the Xbox to allow it to carry out additional "LEGAL" operations. Therefore MS would be hard pressed to make legal action stick on that point (Dependant on the laws of the country involved).
However, modifications are not just hardware. IN MY OPINION,this is where Team X may be a little vunerable with the BIOS's they produce. I am sure their legal eagles ensure that they remain inside the rules but this may be an area that they will, in the future, have to look at and maybe "distance themselves" in order to remain in business. Without spelling it out, this shouldnt really pose too many problems.
Relating this to the chips sold (certainly in the UK) for the PS2, they are now illegal to sell as they are simply a purchase and solder solution to enable the console to play pirated games.. What I mean is that they are programmed to carry out this task from the factory... I hope you can see the difference.
What Microsoft is "focusing on" is banning people from xlive because they are ASSUMING that the Xbox being used has been illegally modded. Again IN MY OPINION, this is where the legal problems will start (but for MS) as the first person who has paid to access the service and has modded their xboxes with LEGAL modifications and has been booted from xlive will have a real good case for kicking their arse. They are playing a dodgy game.
In short, we shouldnt start panicing yet... The biys know what they are doing ans I stress that this submittion is MY OPINION.
So if thatis the case then what can be said about the X3, for instance. Well I may be wrong but the X3 is shipped with a legal BIOS for the purpose of modifying the Xbox to allow it to carry out additional "LEGAL" operations. Therefore MS would be hard pressed to make legal action stick on that point (Dependant on the laws of the country involved).
However, modifications are not just hardware. IN MY OPINION,this is where Team X may be a little vunerable with the BIOS's they produce. I am sure their legal eagles ensure that they remain inside the rules but this may be an area that they will, in the future, have to look at and maybe "distance themselves" in order to remain in business. Without spelling it out, this shouldnt really pose too many problems.
Relating this to the chips sold (certainly in the UK) for the PS2, they are now illegal to sell as they are simply a purchase and solder solution to enable the console to play pirated games.. What I mean is that they are programmed to carry out this task from the factory... I hope you can see the difference.
What Microsoft is "focusing on" is banning people from xlive because they are ASSUMING that the Xbox being used has been illegally modded. Again IN MY OPINION, this is where the legal problems will start (but for MS) as the first person who has paid to access the service and has modded their xboxes with LEGAL modifications and has been booted from xlive will have a real good case for kicking their arse. They are playing a dodgy game.
In short, we shouldnt start panicing yet... The biys know what they are doing ans I stress that this submittion is MY OPINION.
Modding Xboxes isn't illegal. However, when you sign up to Xbox live, you accept their terms of use. The main applicable point here is below...tonylott said:
That's where they have us over a barrel.[url=http://www.xbox.com/en-gb/live/termsofuse.htm said:
I do see your point but their terms and conditions have to fall into line with what is acceptable legally.. Especially when they are taking someones money..... Putting a sign up saying "anyone who enters this building will be shot" does not make it legal to shoot someone that enters the building..... At least not in the UK. If someone has the bottle to challenge their actions should have a reasonable case.... I seem to remember a few years ago that MS were threatening to shut off peoples Pentium 3 processors remotely if they found illegal software on their PC's... They didnt because of the legality of their actions....
Remember....Saying it dont make it right!!
Remember....Saying it dont make it right!!
Finally, I dont know how robust thr MS System is for determining your Xbox state, but they only have to get it wrong a couple of times!!
modding an xbox is illegal due to the due DMCA,
if you modify any device to bypass copyright or to use for any other use then intended it would be illegal under the DCMA
however the fair use act allows you to create a backup for t=you own personal use.
there is a conflict in the law that has yet to be resolved, although there is a law trying to be passed that would remove many rights like the right to backup you own stuff.
if you modify any device to bypass copyright or to use for any other use then intended it would be illegal under the DCMA
however the fair use act allows you to create a backup for t=you own personal use.
there is a conflict in the law that has yet to be resolved, although there is a law trying to be passed that would remove many rights like the right to backup you own stuff.
Thats a pretty sweet article... I definitely like the end quote...LOL... As well as others, I still don't see the relevance of banning people from XBL because they are loosing money!!! :?
Modding is not what's illegal under the DMCA ... like you said it's due to copyright infringment...which takes place through the BIOS
About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
What's up guys, I'm About to buy an xbox 360 elite, I'm planning to mod the 360 as soon as i get it. IS there any special things i need? I know i need blank duel layer dvd's but is there anything eles i need?
This is the link to the 360 im gonna order
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Elite-Winter-Batman-Bundle/dp/B002LBGB1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1265138174&sr=1-1
What's up guys, I'm About to buy an xbox 360 elite, I'm planning to mod the 360 as soon as i get it. IS there any special things i need? I know i need blank duel layer dvd's but is there anything eles i need?
This is the link to the 360 im gonna order
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Elite-Winter-Batman-Bundle/dp/B002LBGB1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1265138174&sr=1-1
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
Ya need some special Help!! lol, if you thinking ya only need discs you need to read textbook's tut before anything cus it sounds like you no experience with this at all (there is alot to learn).
Ya need some special Help!! lol, if you thinking ya only need discs you need to read textbook's tut before anything cus it sounds like you no experience with this at all (there is alot to learn).
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
I know that you need to do stuff to it, to mod it but im talking about any extra tools needed?
I know that you need to do stuff to it, to mod it but im talking about any extra tools needed?
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
ya dont even know wot drive you will get yet so no one can answer, buy it first and the tut tell you every thing,,,, if stuck then, you can start asking questions....
ya dont even know wot drive you will get yet so no one can answer, buy it first and the tut tell you every thing,,,, if stuck then, you can start asking questions....
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
make sure it doesn't have the new 93450 firmware on it, these drives are unmoddable... well you can mod em if you know how to solder! If you to manage to flash it then i'd recommened VERBATIM dual layer DVD's, these are the best ones.
make sure it doesn't have the new 93450 firmware on it, these drives are unmoddable... well you can mod em if you know how to solder! If you to manage to flash it then i'd recommened VERBATIM dual layer DVD's, these are the best ones.
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
okay, ima buy this 360 right now ima get it tomarrow, and i'll tell you what drive i got. Thanks for the help thus far guys!
okay, ima buy this 360 right now ima get it tomarrow, and i'll tell you what drive i got. Thanks for the help thus far guys!
Re: About to buy a 360 elite, any speical things i need?
lol yeah, if you're buying it brand new then you're more than likely to get the new firmware, which isn't good news if you wanna mod it.. check out this site, its a database registered with 360's that people have recently bought and it tells you which firmware they got, so do a quick search and see what comes up for the elite... I just done a search and they all came back with the 93450 firmware, not good!
http://www.360drives.com/list
lol yeah, if you're buying it brand new then you're more than likely to get the new firmware, which isn't good news if you wanna mod it.. check out this site, its a database registered with 360's that people have recently bought and it tells you which firmware they got, so do a quick search and see what comes up for the elite... I just done a search and they all came back with the 93450 firmware, not good!
http://www.360drives.com/list