ms28 problem with backups

Gmax

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Jan 15, 2003
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flashing went ok... , i used iprep and ixtreme fw ,(slow)
but now when i try to play backups sometimes i have to insert dvd 5 or more times because it says disk is dirty..., it wont play movies in games and games crash when i get them working eventualy
 

zerach

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Dec 8, 2002
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what ixtreme firmware did you use.v1.2 revc(slow)
if so i had trouble with that one also(fast to but not as bad)
i went back to the v1.2 it in the old folder at you know where.
things are great now
 

Gmax

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Jan 15, 2003
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i used revc before ,tried v1.2 but still same problem :/
tried xtreme 53 too , but still...
 

zerach

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Dec 8, 2002
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if you have flashed all of those firmware then i would say it the backup.

imgburn dump at 4x burn at 2.4x NO faster.on good disc

go back to the v1.2 firmware not the revc(till you get this going)
 

zerach

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Dec 8, 2002
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at the top you said it wont play anything right.movies, orig games or backup right.

if it wont play anything it could be your laser(i not sure at this point)
 

Gmax

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Jan 15, 2003
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it wont play movies in games. it does play dvd movies but i don't have any originals to try. backups wont run on the first try and when i try many times i get it working butr then it crashes in 15 minutes or so.
 

zerach

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Dec 8, 2002
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at this point i would go back orig firmware and see if it will play orig games.
the only way i can help is a backup made off a orig game.(that you own)
 

OliMaylen

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As cofree suggested, I also think it sounds suspicously like a laser problem. DVD's are "easier" to read than games, as are original games easier to read than backups.

So if it is reading DVD's fine and your original games I would guess at the laser.

Restore the drive and try an original game in the drive. If it plays that then we know the drive is good, but it is probably just the laser giving you problems reading backup media.

If this is the case you have two options:

1.) There is a good tutorial showing how to adjust the Pot of your drives laser. ie: Calibrate the laser to increase its power/strength to help it read discs. You will need a multimeter to do it. If you have one or can get hold of one, I guess you have nothing to lose in giving it a go. As long as your careful & don't damage anything when taking the drive apart you can always put the drive back as before if it doesn't work. Tutorial here:

Xbox360 DVD Pot Calibration

2.) Dump the firmware from your drive, make sure you have a good dump by checking the Key in Toolbox 4.0. Then buy a replacement drive off ebay or similar & flash it with your firmware to make it work on your console.
 

4th-byte

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Dec 10, 2002
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I have the same problem as you. I was told to flash the drive back to 1.2 because quite a few people are having backup issues with 1.2 REV C.
 

OliMaylen

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Yeah, if you have tried different firmwares & you still get the same problem but originals play fine, it really does sound like your laser is on its last legs.

One other option I didn't mention before is that you can pick up a replacement laser assembly easily on ebay or other places too.

That would be cheaper than buying a new drive but you have to be confident in taking apart your old drive & replacing it, which involves a very small amount of de-soldering.

There is a really easy to follow tutorial on this site for Samsung laser replacement which should help you:

Samsung laser replacement tutorial

Let us know how you get on. :)
 

OliMaylen

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Just one other thing before you start buying replacement parts etc, you said your backups play on your friends console yes?

What firmware is he running on his 360? Is it the new iXtreme or an older Xtreme firmware?
 

Gmax

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Jan 15, 2003
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older xtreme i guess , but maybe not all i can remember is that he has some hitachi , i have to try them again because maybe they got damaged in my bag wich is a small opportunity ,cause the box was broken a little...
 

OliMaylen

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If he actually does have the old Xtreme firmware then it may just mean your backups are not properly made.

You may or may not be aware that the new iXtreme firmware will not play backups that are not stealthed properly. It's a saftey feature.

So if your backups work fine on his box but he has the older firmware this may be the reason why.

Make or get hold of a backup you know is definately stealth patched. You can use Schtrom 360Xtract v3.3 to do a Stealth check on the game disc or use XDVD Mulleter beta 9.7 to verify if a backup is iXtreme compatible.

There is a really good tutorial that shows how to make an iXtreme compatible backup from a non iXtreme compatible backup here which may be of some use to you:

How to create an ixtreme compatible ISO from a non-ixtreme

:wink:

Let us know how it goes. :)
 

Gmax

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Jan 15, 2003
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why didn't they work when i had xtreme53?
but i will try to burn a ixtreme compatible : )
 

OliMaylen

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Ah of course, OK I forgot the bit where you said you tried that.

Hmmm, well you could try making sure they are iXtreme compatible, if it still doesn't help then I guess we are only left with the laser at fault. In which case I have mentioned all your options before. lol