My Booting Problems (cont)

[Moorish]

Sorry to create another thread, I am unable to PM Xecuter or E-mail him via the board so this is the only place I could put it. If it needs deleting so be it, but if you could read this first it would be appreciated. Cheers!

Hi there, I was writing this reply as you closed the thread and there were a couple of things I wanted to address, so here they are:

am i technically able to answer question about something i designed ??? lol

why dont you actually look at the programmer tutorial and see for yourself how it works ?

I did say earlier:

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica] The X2 Programmer looks like a good option - I've had a read around it but I can't work out if it's possible to flash it while the chip is still connected to the motherboard.[/font]

Just fyi, of course

I read several tutorials and they all show examples of what looks like a brand new "out of the box" chip. I assume that programming the chip while still attached isn't ideal I just want to know whether it is possible or not. If so then that's the option that I'll go for. If not, then I'll have to pursue other options. That's all I was asking really.

i also suggest nxt time when you flsh any mod - mak sure you have a recovery option on there (like FlashBios)

Like all people I try to learn from my mistakes and this one I will most definitely learn from.

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica] im not patronising you - but you came across like you were complaining and we always state clearly that there may always be bugs - but we do work hard to hammer them out.[/font]

Not once did I complain and looking back over my posts I don't think there is anything there that could be misconstrued as a complaint.

I understand you have a tough job and I've no doubt you work hard. I also understand that in all software there are always going to be bugs and I took the risk of flashing the BIOS knowingly. All I was asking for was a little help because things had gone wrong. There really is no need to be so hostile.

I expect you do get a lot of stick from people unfairly but I am not one of those people, try not to tar us all with the same brush. I am capable of reading up on things and I have done, but sometimes the specific question I am asking (re: the programmer) isn't answered anywhere as far as I can see so I have to trouble good people like yourself for an answer.

 

[Frexwix]

Ummm... What kind of chip do you have? Are you sure it isn't possible to get it out without soldering?

 

[Moorish]

Ummm... What kind of chip do you have? Are you sure it isn't possible to get it out without soldering?

Sorry - I thought all that info was displayed as I had to enter it when I registered.

It's an X2.1 Lite from what I can remember, and it is fully soldered in. No pin header or anything.

 

[Frexwix]

Ah, well. In that case the M.O. should be to either find someone who's shoulder to pet when he's soldered your pet (MAN, I'm good!!!), or to, well, I don't know... Is it soldered P2P or with cable? (Not sure what the chip looks like)

 

[Xecuter]

x2.1 fully soldered on ?

what do you mean ?

there were only 2 ways of installing - pin header or wires adapter - both plug n play

if its not like that then nothing i can suggest

and of course the programmer uestion is answered

if you READ THE TUTORIAL you can see how the mod connects to the programmer - im not sure how you mised that ?

 

[Klutsh]

The only way yu can use a programmis it to attachit via the pinheader socket.

If you cant do that then I would strongly suggest you temp' softmod your xbox.
Just to give you enough access to fix you config.ini

 

[Moorish]

That's a pic of the chip. Looks like where it's situated is going to make things difficult. Not too confident about removing it without damaging something!

Thanks for the help people, much appreciated.

 

[Mikester18]

Definitly looks like you can try the soft mod option. Once the Box is softmodded you can change that part of the ini that will fix it so you can run slayer and all that. Klustch knows what he is talking about. He is a smart guy. best wishes to you for more info on softmodding visit xbox-linux.org I know you need some stuff to do it but it can be cheaper than a programmer if you have some of the stuff.

 

[Big_Whoopin]

Where the wires connect at the top and bottom are plugs, you can remove them. Done it with the switch bank plug a number of times on mine, no problem. Important that you are trying to remove this by working out the plug and not just yanking on the wires.

You might need to get some fresh double sided tape to put it back on the side tho.

-Whoopin'

 

[Xecuter]

just unplug the mod !


doh

 

[Moorish]

Definitly looks like you can try the soft mod option. Once the Box is softmodded you can change that part of the ini that will fix it so you can run slayer and all that. Klustch knows what he is talking about. He is a smart guy. best wishes to you for more info on softmodding visit xbox-linux.org I know you need some stuff to do it but it can be cheaper than a programmer if you have some of the stuff.

The thing is, I can get a programmer for about £15, the soft mod option is going to cost me more as I'd have to get a compatible game & an Action Replay etc.

I think I'll order a programmer and give it a go. I'm just concerned about damaging the chip and the wiring. The connection to the switchbank comes off easy enough but the main connection at the bottom of the chip doesn't look like it wants to budge and it's so close to the motherboard that I don't want to use a screw driver to push the clip out the socket.

I'll work it out somehow anyways. Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated.

 

[Frexwix]

Just keep your cool and you'll do fine.

 

[Xecuter]

screwdriver ?

just unplug it with your fingers - the only difficult part is the fact the chip is stuck to the side of your case - just be careful with that

 

[Moorish]

screwdriver ?

just unplug it with your fingers - the only difficult part is the fact the chip is stuck to the side of your case - just be careful with that

Yeah I would do that if it wasn't so close to the board, I physically can't get my fingers in there. You're right - getting the chip off the case is going to be difficult, it appears to be stuck solid!

 

[Big_Whoopin]

Definitely see if you can separate the mod from the side of the box first. Since it is stuck where the metal has vents, maybe you can work on it slowly by pressing something blunt through the holes and against the chip? Maybe "soften up" the double sided tape with a hair dryer first? Just don't rush it, should be cool.

-Whoopin'

 

[Klutsh]

I used a VERY sharp knife to VERY slowly cut the sticky pad off the metal side.
Keeping the knife on the side of the xbox all the time. The sticky pad is thick enough so you dont damage your chip.

 

[Moorish]

I used a VERY sharp knife to VERY slowly cut the sticky pad off the metal side.
Keeping the knife on the side of the xbox all the time. The sticky pad is thick enough so you dont damage your chip.

That's a good idea. I'll give that a shot - cheers!

 

[Moorish]

I've removed the chip from the casing OK now and have removed the wires - the main connection was a stubborn git but it gave in the end. Have reconnected everything and it still works, or doesn't work - depending on how you look at it .

Will just wait for the programmer to arrive now .