RGH My first stubborn BB Jasper ..

Martin C

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I thought I'd post this as it might help others troubleshoot their RGH without causing any permanent damage.

Issue: boot times were VERY erratic. I fitted the 100nF cap between GND and A which made it glitch fine once, but wouldn't glitch afterwards. I know from experience that the CPU_RST wire can be the cause, especially if there's interference. I tested the theory by wiring it topside but leaving it loose but nowhere near any other components. It did glitch, but was still quite erratic and only seemed to go when I pinched the wire between thumb and forefinger.

I've seen others use coax (I take no credit in this whatsoever), so I picked up 10m of RG-174 from ebay and cut to length (Xecuter recommends LMR-100A - but I couldn't find any locally so went for RG-174 which seems to work well too). I didn't bother about earthing the screen, so just cut back cleanly leaving a multi-strand core (Although Xecuter does recommend soldering the shield to GND and solid core is also preferred to multi-strand core). I used insulating tape to protect where it was cut (so that no stray earth strands were visible). You can use heat-shrink to similar effect.

I initially soldered it between CPU_RST and D topside to test. Booted up every time between 5-15 secs. I therefore went ahead and installed it properly (see attached image). Same result.

So, if you have a stubborn Jasper, do things in THIS order:

1. Check ALL solder points. This goes without saying. If your soldering is no good then no amount of wire positioning etc will help.

2. Use the preferred wire routing as posted in the tutorials. Keep the CPU_RST wire loose for now and away from any other components.

3. Either solder a 100nF cap between GND and A (rev. A CR) or bridge the cap point (rev. B / rev. C CoolRunner).

If it's not glitching at this point, try pinching the CPU_RST wire between thumb and forefinger as previously mentioned. Your body provides a natural insulation by doing this. If this helps, look at using LMR-100A / RG-174 instead as advised.

If it's STILL not booting, make sure your ECC file is good etc. as at this point, it's going to be something more obvious.
 

Mickey3177

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Thanks Martin, I'm going to give this a try on a Jasper I give up on, it wouldn't boot hardly at all no matter what I did, just need get some RG-174, I'm going check Home Depot here and see if they carrier anything close, thanks for the tip.
 
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mechgamer123

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Did you try using the alternate 3.3v power from the Southbridge? That has helped my picky bb jaspers.

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Martin C

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Did you try using the alternate 3.3v power from the Southbridge? That has helped my picky bb jaspers.

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It's nothing to do with the voltage. The point used is the recommended one for the Coolrunner.
 

danxbmc

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Good result, my partner works for a small firm that did a limited run of prototype GPS boards a year or so ago. I remember she came home with some to inspect one evening (I have a good memory for these trivial things). I asked her if there was any of this wire leftover at work in the stores...There was she came home with a decent roll end today, looks like 20m +
It's very similar to RG-174 but appears be be braided and insulated even better. It's very stiff and has a pinky/see-thru/copper colour sleeve whilst still managing to be quite fine.
Happy days.
 

danxbmc

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Update on the above, works astoundly good. Tricky Jasper that back in November wouldn't glitch at all boots as good as any Falcon now. 1st time every time.
 
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