'NANDX can't detect flash controller'=Bye Bye NandX!!!!!

[doctorC]

I am really very disappointed by the fact that the nandx flasher that I bought a year ago from modtraders.co.uk stopped functioning.. permanently!!!
In the last two Jtag attempts I got random messages that ' nandpro cannot detect flash controller.
In the last jtag attempt today this was permanent and by no means nandx could detect the flash controller'
I did a search regarding this problem and i was astonished to see that many other users had problems similar to mine... The answer given either
A. OVER EMPHASISED THE BAD SOLDER OPTION..... This is misleading and you may actually burn your nand/ jtag points trying to make the perfect solder point... The truth is that most probably your NAND X Controller is failing.... or
B. Insisted on direct Wire soldering: No need to do this as trying to remove the pin headers you will destroy your nand points...
YES windows can see NandX properly and install drivers .. and YES both leds may be on BUT that doesn't mean anything as the arm chip is probably fried.....
I tested mine in three jtag boards that had permanent pin headers and had been read properly a few months ago.... NandX couldn't detect anyone of them.... I even tested all versions of nandpro (a.b.d.e...) none made any difference... Then I made a LPT cable which connected to the same pin headers and guess what the nand wad detected and PC started slowly to read it....
I would like to know of there is some kind of warranty for this tool and if there hve been made modifications in the latest nandx boards that would correct this failure....
Judging from the numerous reports of the controller suddenly not being able to detect the flasher I suppose that the failing rates of the unit could be well above average...

 

[Ubergeek]

So you wasted your time by this meaningless long post when all you needed to do was send it to mt to be tested / repaired / replaced.

We've sold over 100k of these since release, and remember you are only going to see posts on a support forum from people who have problems so of course the percentage is miniscule.

Failures happen, but to be fair most of the time its down to misuse by the user (not you though right? You are an electrical enginer/pro installer/ infallible genius etc)

Whats with all the caps in your posts? Is that some kind of teenage facebook way of posting online to get your useless yet angry point across ?

Word of advice, next time simply speak to whomever you bought the product from and simply ask them instead of some long winded tirade that no one could possibly help you with.

Sent from my shiny new iPhone 4s

 

[doctorC]

Actually UberGeek I LOST 10 HOURS OF MY LIFE TODAY FOLLOWING THE STICKY POST ABOVE THAT STATED THAT 99% I HAVE...BAD SLODER POINTS.... !!!!!! IT SEEMS THAT I AM THE 1%
Do you think that modtraders will accept to take back the unit? I dpn't live in UK.... or most probaly I should return it straight to teamxecuter...

 

[Ubergeek]

Fyi I bet my left ass cheeck that there is nothing wrong with it

Just send it to mt for testing, if its faulty and less than a year since you bought then youll be taken care of. If its found to be working perflectly fine they will no doubt bill you a testing fee and return shipping costs.

Sent from my shiny new iPhone 4s

 

[Ubergeek]

Actually UberGeek I LOST 10 HOURS OF MY LIFE TODAY FOLLOWING THE STICKY POST ABOVE THAT STATED THAT 99% I HAVE...BAD SLODER POINTS.... !!!!!! IT SEEMS THAT I AM THE 1%
Do you think that modtraders will accept to take back the unit? I dpn't live in UK.... or most probaly I should return it straight to teamxecuter...

OMG LETS TALK IN CAPS ITS SO AWESOME !!!!!

maybe you should have read the terms before buying from a uk company. Maybe you should read modtraders return policy right now instead of asking here if they.have one.

Sent from my shiny new iPhone 4s

 

[bigO73]

Lol I love it!! And by the way I didnt have to put it in all caps to mean it. I have done over 15 consoles in the past week with pin headers in anticipation of the RGH. I did a lot of reading because I kept getting 'could not detect flash controller' and felt my soldering was pretty good. Well after doing a few thats exactly what it was and what the hell, I can't help myself, IT WAS ME USER ERROR! LOL

 

[doctorC]

Ubergeek I think that my post was very polite based only on facts.. That's why it was so long. the only misuse was that of capital letters ... used only to emphasise some points... and that's all
On the other hand I find some of your answers very aggressivly pointed against me...
'So you wasted your time by this meaningless long post when all you needed to do was send it to mt to be tested / repaired / replaced.'
ok It is Saturday evening... Modtraders are closed..... I will email them on Monday.... Is that so bad posting?
'Whats with all the caps in your posts? Is that some kind of teenage facebook way of posting online to get your useless yet angry point across ?'
Ok misuse of capitals.... but all the rest is only facts. I posted here as you could advise me what to do... as well as to inform other users that NandX failure might be more probable than the 1% stated in the sticky post.... I am 'angry' as I resoldered more than three times in each board 7 nand points.... (3*3*7=63 solder points score..) as well as testing the PCB traces for continuity.....
'Fyi I bet my left ass cheeck that there is nothing wrong with it '
3MB with permanent pinheaders on then read previously with nandx but now none can be done Instead all of them are read by a crappy lpt cable..... Do you still insist?

 

[doctorC]

Lol I love it!! And by the way I didnt have to put it in all caps to mean it. I have done over 15 consoles in the past week with pin headers in anticipation of the RGH. I did a lot of reading because I kept getting 'could not detect flash controller' and felt my soldering was pretty good. Well after doing a few thats exactly what it was and what the hell, I can't help myself, IT WAS ME USER ERROR! LOL

You could eaasily verify that by pluging a LPT cable which wouldn't work either in your case..... My case is different than yours...
Maybe UbergeeK could inform us if they had made any board modifications,,, in NandX the last year as believe it or not I would like to buy another one.. LPYT is slow...

 

[doctorC]

capitals are gone...

 

[skiiermike]

Ok so I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. I had the same error a couple of weeks ago and it turns out it was my soldering. I had dropped a small wire from the desolder braid and it bridged something. I blew off the board and it worked. So I'm just another stat for that 99%.

However I do understand your frustration doctorc as your great product just stopped working. However like Uber said if it was the certain timeframe it would be fixed for you.

I like to look at it like this. How many vehicles are sold in North America a year vs how many go in for warranty work. ( the answer for both is a huge number ). I don't know the number but it's something everyone can relate to.

No matter how great a product, it is impossible to make it so it will never break that's why TX is such a great company because they will always try to fix the problem.

 

[doctorC]

Ok email to modtraders
'Dear Dir I have bought 13 monts ago
#8351 Complete XXXXXXX (doctorc) 16-06-2010 21:15:17 £43.49

one nandx controller that has failed yesterday. This is verified by using am LPT cable to read the nand from the sane cables that nandx can't. I have posted my problem to the teamxecuter forrum
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73024
Is there any guarantee for the product ? Can I get a replacement?
I used the profuct no more than 10 times to read/write nands the last 1.5 years. Now that I am thinking of it the unit had an erratic behavior right from the start as it took many tries to read a nand but i thought that this was normal...'

The reply from modtraders... as expected...
'Hi,
Sory to hear about the problems encountered with your product but unfortunately this item is now out of warranty.
Kind regards,
Dave
Dispatch Team'

As I told them the unit had erratic behaviour right from the start ...sometimes reading a nand with a 3rd or 4th try.... Now I am left alone... as modtarders neither have in stock NAndX NOR the offered some kind of repair of the unit...
Can you help me in repairing it? I suppose that the problem is the central IC... Is there a replacement somewhere? Is anyone here familiar with the problem that usually broken NandX have?

 

[diaboliq20]

Why is it when people have a problem with an item that's out of warranty, all of a sudden it wasn't working correctly from the start????
I hate when people try and use that one - we get that sometimes at my company - why not get it reported and tested as soon as you notice a fault instead of leaving it until it dies completely and is out of warranty??
Lets' be honest - it's not like they are expensive, and I bet you have MORE than made your money back doing Jtags with it

 

[doctorC]

Why is it when people have a problem with an item that's out of warranty, all of a sudden it wasn't working correctly from the start????
I hate when people try and use that one - we get that sometimes at my company - why not get it reported and tested as soon as you notice a fault instead of leaving it until it dies completely and is out of warranty??

REPLY BECAUSE MY FRIEND I am not a pro not familiar with the use of Nandx AND THAT WAS MY FIRST NANDX... I have also read your sticky post that says that 99% is my fault... So I thought that THIS was my fault !!!! THAT'S WHY .. If I buy a second I will know right from the start


Lets' be honest - it's not like they are expensive, and I bet you have MORE than made your money back doing Jtags with it
REPLY: I am not doing JTAGS for profit... 5 out of ten are either at home or at my office for my kids to play and the others are done free for friends....!!!!!!


Lets' be honest - it's not like they are expensive, and I bet you have MORE than made your money back doing Jtags with it[/quote]
REPLY: I am not doing JTAGS for profit... 5 out of ten are either at home or at my office for my kids to play and the others are done free for friends....!!!!!!

 

[doctorC]

Ok I also have CKBlaster 3 for two years it works ok .... and I am not complaining about it...and I have nothing against TeamXecuter products.... (MY) BlaskerCK3 works ok for two years used numerous times where as (MY) nandx failed after 20-30 read/writes... That's all.
Any help now from anyone???
Please NO more personal attacks!!!!....

 

[diaboliq20]

But if it's failed what can we do....??? If it's faulty and nothing to do with soldering... What do u want us to say????

 

[frazzeld]

If its passed it's warranty period theres not much you can do! sorry it's time to get a replacement or another nand flasher

 

[BGAMods]

if the nand-x was faulty from day 1 or erratic as you say it should have been reported then, your warranty has expired so no reseller will replace.

 

[raptor700]

i once had a box of cornflakes i only ate two bowls but they went past its best before date,
would morrisons refund me no they wouldnt
so guess what i ate them instead ,
so now im going back tomorrow to buy somemore
and ive heard theres new sata drives in the big boxes aswell

 

[WNYConsoles]

You did remember to plug the xbox into the power supply right? LOL

Not for anything, even if it did die after a year, so what, go buy a new one. We would be SOL if it wasn't for TX and the great products they make so if something fails after a year so what. If it was DOA or died after a few months, then complain, but 1+ years, so what!

 

[frayed]

dear sir, please just buy another one and stop complaining, no one cares

you have wasted more than $40 of your life worrying about this damn thing