Nandx mysteriously stopped working. Not a noob...

[Norcal Reballer 707]

First off, I want to say I've been a huge fan of you guys since I first bought my ck3 pro days ago! You do great work and I'm really impressed with it. Will also keep buying your stuff no matter what. I do have a problem though.

I bought my nandx awhile back and read 30+ nands with it. Need to point out that only 1(yes 1) out of the 30+ didn't work the first time I tried to read it and it was due to the soldering. That is of course boards that werent physically damaged when I got them etc.. I had a huge stack of dead boards and I was looking for pre nxe for cpu swaps. I've also jtagged quite a few as well just fine....

Here's the thing. I've read most of that flash controller not detected thread(my problem) and I'm sorry but its mostly noob stuff like soldering etc. I don't consider myself 'pro' at anything but this nand x just straight up stopped working 100% gauranteed no question about it... No firefox, this and that running in the background etc.. Please keep in mind that I've used it quite a bit.

I 'only' use the direct wire method and its worked 98% of the time until now. I tried stopping all programs, soldering and resoldering onto 3 different boards, 2 different power bricks, reinstalling drivers, different brand new set of wires I cut from the qsb's etc. Everything else you could think of as well.

I read somewhere that someone said its always soldering problems and this is not the case. Bought another and it'll be here day after tomorrow. I'll make a video showing it pass or fail. If it fails then we know its something else but my money is one its the nand x itself.. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about them just not working correctly?

I'm not bashing you guys at all. I really do love your stuff and will contiue buying it. I should have some more info and a video in 2-3 days max and hopefully it'll help other people as well which is my main goal here.

Thanks for reading all this crap and thanks for your great products!!

Regards

 

[xbox360 hacker]

when it stopped working did you press the reset button to see if it will sort your problem ?

 

[Martin C]

"I 'only' use the direct wire method and its worked 98% of the time until now"

Do you really need someone to tell you that the fault is with your soldering?

I've never had a problem with any SPI flasher - from what you're saying it's more than likely your soldering. Care to post pics?

 

[manwithoutname]

I've got 2 x NAND-X and my first one that I bought from March last year is still working flawlessly. Makes me wonder if I will ever need the 2nd spare one I got!

Of course there is a slim chance that it could have developed a fault, but all other factors have to be eliminated first. These things are built to last ....

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

I tried everything. Its not solder job. I'm certain the new one will sort it. Thanks for the tips guys. Didn't mean to sound like a complainer. Just trying to figure out whats going on with this thing..

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

Please delete... Sorry.

 

[Neverzinho]

What was your problem?

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

"I 'only' use the direct wire method and its worked 98% of the time until now"

Do you really need someone to tell you that the fault is with your soldering?

I've never had a problem with any SPI flasher - from what you're saying it's more than likely your soldering. Care to post pics?

I'm hoping you sound like that in your post just because you are used to dealing with people that can't solder a wire on a board... Please re read my first post. I'll chop it up to that, as I'm sure you deal with that stuff alot.

@Never Its just getting the no flash controller detected. Getting the new one this morning hopefully and will be testing and making video.

@everyone My buddy got one that didn't work out of the box even. He thought it was his soldering. We made a video of mine working then his not working but he didn't keep it, as he just sent it in for exchange. The lights blinked one time when you plugged it in if that helps. To think that 120% of the time its the idiot that can't solder is pretty lame...

 

[Martin C]

I'm hoping you sound like that in your post just because you are used to dealing with people that can't solder a wire on a board...

Need to point out that only 1(yes 1) out of the 30+ didn't work the first time I tried to read it and it was due to the soldering.

I 'only' use the direct wire method and its worked 98% of the time until now

I'm not saying you can't solder. You're saying that all by yourself.

I have NEVER had a problem with reading/writing that I could attribute to soldering in all the consoles I've worked on. Then again, I can solder.

post pics as advised, but I'm already certain of what I'm going to see.

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

:facepalm:That is a prime example of why I will never call myself 'pro' or any of that even after I have 1,000 reballs under my belt. I take on much harder soldering tasks 6-7 days a week. Its how I make half my living.. I'm not saying I'm the best in the world at anything but I get the stuff done with no problems.

If you actually take the time to really read what I said, you can see that I've read enough nands to know what I'm doing. Take the old pro blinders off for a minute and understand that up until now, months later, I've NEVER had a problem either. Is that hard to understand?

Here's a pic for you:

http://www.team-xecuter.com/nandx_pics/install/Wire_Solder_0526.jpg

 

[xbox360 hacker]

Thats a pic from the nand-x tut the pic martin was referring to is ones you can take of your own install so he can access your solder job then help you trouble shoot further

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

Well, the new nandx sorted it. I made a video and I'm dedicating it to Martin C for just not wanting to listen. If you need any more proof or anything, please let me know and I will do whatever you want. My nandx went bad. Thats the friggin bottom line. All you nay sayers will be stumped when the video finishes uploading. I'm sure you will ban me and get rid of the link when you see I'm not BS'ing you.

I'm really a nice guy but that pro attitude gets to me bad sorry... It'll always be on youtube btw with dedicated to Martin C from TX on there. You're not some bad ass know it all dude. Its easy to solder wires sorry dude. I took that personal, as you have the worst pro attitude I've ever seen. This will prove that I was correct and you don't know a damn thing.

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

Thats a pic from the nand-x tut the pic martin was referring to is ones you can take of your own install so he can access your solder job then help you trouble shoot further

Yeah, it was a little smart ass thing to do. You've done nothing but try to help and I appreciate that. Really dude. I've been trying to upload my video showing its not soldering but my nandx went bad. Its confirmed.

Youtube is having problems or I would've posted a link already.

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

Here it is though, as promised. 100% no doubt my old nandx took a dump like I thought.

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@Martin C Next time maybe quit with the attitude and running your mouth when you clearly didn't listen to what I was saying.. I'm sure you'll delete this topic after but whatever dude.

 

[Martin C]

Do me a favour and check the socket where you plug the wire harness into the NAND-x.

"Could not detect a flash controller" tells me the NAND-x is talking to the USB (otherwise you'd get a different error), but the NAND-x can't see the southbridge and the #1 cause of that is soldering. You've already proven your soldering is ok so check the socket on the NAND-X itself.


One more thing - either remove the youtube link or remove all references to my name. It's my intellectual property (as it is my actual name) and I have a right in how it's used. I'll give you 24 hours to do that and I'll file a complaint with YouTube after this.

In the meantime, check what I advised.

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

Yeah, I'll remove the video now. Socket is fine. Thing is wasted somehow. Please next time listen to someone first before baggin on them.

Consider this whole topic done with.

EDIT:I'm trying to add audioswap to cover talking and remove details. Made it private too but youtube is having problems right now.. I need the video to send to where I bought it at. Thanks.

 

[Martin C]

If the socket is fine and there are no bent/damaged pins, then something internal has gone. Take a close up pic of both alongside each other though as I reckon you might need to show it to the store where you bought if from.

Just re shoot the video and remove the other one.

As for believing that your soldering was ok. You really don't know how many times we hear that. Combine with the fact that these things hardly ever go bad and the fact you admitted yourself that youve had issues in the past related to soldering, it does paint the picture somewhat.

 

[diaboliq20]

I'm glad u got it sorted.......but tbh Martin has forgotten more than most of us know when it comes to this stuff.....and why even start the thread if u knew from the start a new Nand-X would sort it?
still....as I said - glad you're back up and running

 

[Norcal Reballer 707]

@diaboliq20 I have no idea why I started it really. After reading around, I've seen that they go bad more than I thought. Its been over 30 days so I'm out the money but its not too big of a deal.

I don't have an ocilliscope or any of that to try to compare readings inside this thing. I'll keep it though for the future when maybe I do though.