Need cool runner assistance! No green led

ol' dirty ewok

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Got a couple of issues with CoolRunner.

1) Stupid mistake on my part. I dumped the nand 4 times, and compared with nandhealer (all matching). Nand-x was used w/ V3 (came already upgraded from dealer). Created ECC file and rewrote to Nand with nand-x. All successful no issues.

Upon removing my white connector cable from QSB/Nand-x, I stupidly yanked the white connector cable from SLIM QSB instead of holding the board down and removing the cable. Consequently the torque applied was enough to remove the 3 solder points on the lower portion of the QSB. I resoldered those 3 points and tested with multimeter, and redumped the nand. Only to realize after it was too late that i didn't change the names of the bin files when running the commands. Consequently all the original nands were overwritten with nand w/ ecc flashed. I know, rookie mistake.

So my first question is, what can be done about this (I have no CPU key nor drive Key). I know i can rebuild an original Trinity nand if I can boot into Xell and grab the necessary keys. Which comes to problem # 2

2) Before installing Coolrunner, I flashed it with Nand-x and Trinity timing files w/ the tool that Coolshrimp had made. I first programmed it while in Slim/PRG mode (keep reading).

I did not pay attention to CR during initial programming. However, I seem to only notice the RED LED only and no GREEN LED. And did not notice either if the green LED had turned off after first programming CR (if the green LED indeed turned on).

Installed Coolrunner w/ slim QSB. I tested continuity with all points except C,D. BTW, on which other points on the Motherboard can we test for continuity from Coolrunner to X to test to see if points C,D were soldered properly?

Put back the necessary parts and booted up (power button and tried eject as well).
Only red pwer light. No Green flashing (at all). And a blank screen. No boot into Xell.

I noticed that as soon as I plug in xbox power, the fan spins up and seemingly the Xbox turns "on", but no image on the screen and no green light on cool runner, i can also hear the DVD drive heads move during inititiation. After a certain amount of time, the xbox shuts off. If I repower it on with power or eject, still no green light, just red, and a blank screen.

I did some reading, and noticed that the coolrunner initial programming must be set to normal (carolinagamer's CR install video shows him setting to PRG, so I followed that). When I first programmed it it was in PRG mode, but it flashed successfully. Then after reading a few threads, i reconnected nand-x and reprogrammed CR with Trinity Timing files, CoolShrimp app, and this time with CR in NOR mode. BTW, XBOX was not plugged in, I used nand-x for powering CR. So again, successful flash of CR, at least no errors appeard.

Put back xbox together and powered up. Still same issue, no green light, only RED led, and blank screen, no Xell.

Now i'm at a lost. I'm afraid i might have an expensive paper weight on my hands.

I will post pictures when i get home from work.

in the mean time, any suggestions, and answers to my questions?

Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. Kind of long winded I know, but the more details the better at troubleshooting.

thanks.
 
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keith6625

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someone correct me if i am wrong

i thank sense the ecc file is made with the part of your nand that has your cpu key in it you will not have a paper weight but i dont know how to rebuild a working nand out of what your have you will have to get one of the others here to help you there i have always had no bad blocks so never had to mess with the nand that much




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do you still have the copy of your nand that you put into the program folder that you made your ecc out of you have to copy it to multi builder and and it keeps the one you copied alone just reads it and uses it to make the ecc file
 
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BL4K3Y

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i didn't change the names of the bin files when running the commands. Consequently all the original nands were overwritten with nand w/ ecc flashed.
That was a bad mistake, and potentially a crucial one.

Which operating system are you using?

If you are using Windows 7 (not sure about Vista), right click on a NAND, click properties then go to the "Previous Versions" tab, this should give you the option to restore files from an earlier date/time.

I know it is a bit of a long shot, but it has to be worth a try.
 
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ol' dirty ewok

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Sorry.. all traces of my original nand are gone from my PC. I also looked at the versioning within Win 7... unfortunately nothing there for me either.

Added pics to see soldering. I tested continuity on all points except C,D... did not know which points to test them against.

How does one go about verifying that programming on the CoolRunner is OK?
 

Martin C

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As long as you still have one good dump, even with ecc information, you should still be able to recover.

Get your CPU key first and then go from there.
 

ol' dirty ewok

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As long as you still have one good dump, even with ecc information, you should still be able to recover.

Get your CPU key first and then go from there.
Yeah that's pretty much what i was hoping too... If I can boot into xell... but unfortunately I cant!

No green lights on CR when booting. Tried a different CR, same thing.. So I doubt its the CR that's defective.

I'm going to redo the QSB soldering. Hopefully that'll change something? But weirdly enough I was able to get the dumps without issues.
 

Martin C

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Leave the QSB for now. It's the cable routing you need to look at. If you have no green flashing LED then either you ecc image was created incorrectly or (more likely) your CPU_PLL_BYPASS and CPU_RST wires are too close the the upper coils. Run these cables nearer to the X-clamps.
 

ol' dirty ewok

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Thanks for the tip. I"ll try that out. And I hope it's not the NAnd thats messed up!. Otherwise i'm pretty much screwed. ECC was created with an original dump using latest Bestpig ECC Glitch Gen (as per CarolinaGamers tut).

Will let you know.
 

ol' dirty ewok

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Hello friends!

Finally got the green light!
Boots up quite rapidly i might add as well

Booted into Xell
Grabbed the keys.

And now i"m ready to rock an roll.

I wanna thank you guys for your help and persistence.

I did 2 things. ALthough i'm not sure which one was the fix, or could have been a combination of both.

I resoldered my QSB, it's possible the Hana point wasn't properly soldered. That point is quite a pain as well. When I was trying to solder directly on the point, I just couldn't get it to solder on that point. After soldering/desoldering so many times, the solder pad on the QSB lifted right off :( Anyhow, i had to improvise, as those QSB's are 5 $ a pop!

I soldered a very small/short wire on 1 end of the resistor on the QSB to the beginning of the other resistor just before the Hana. Those 2 points are quite small, but I got lucky in tinning them just enough to connect the small wire. Tested with multimeter - A-OK.

And secondly I moved around the wire, to a spot closer to the xclamp.

Thanks again guys. now I just need to rebuild my original nand.
 

hydrasworld

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Hi, thanks for posting about moving the wires away from the coils!

I had the same problem - no flashing green LED. Then I read this post, moved the wires closer to the xclams as suggested and now it boots into XeLL!

Awesome.
 

Ubergeek

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Hi, thanks for posting about moving the wires away from the coils!

I had the same problem - no flashing green LED. Then I read this post, moved the wires closer to the xclams as suggested and now it boots into XeLL!

Awesome.
or you could have read the actual instructions and you'd have got the info from there

I wonder sometimes how some of you manage..........