New System Update 2.0.15572.0

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jsinger47

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Yes I understand that, but was anything changed that possibly prevents patching or some other RGH block, or is that information not available yet?
As stated in the OP,


Released: June 12, 2012

Known Changes:

  • Avatar store added to social on the dashboard
  • Updates to the avatar store
  • Adds "Manage Exercise Info" to players Profile
  • Sky is removed from the dashboard (now only accessible through the apps menu)
  • Improvements and preparation for future Xbox live Enhancements
Unpublished Changes:

  • CB has Changed
  • RC4 Keystream Calc Has Changed
Warning

AS ALWAYS - DO NOT UPDATE WITHOUT HAVING FIRST DONE A FULL NAND DUMP AND CORRECT CPU KEY !

So there is a bit more work to do then the last time CB was updated.
 

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To many cooks spoil the broth springs to mind. Reading this is priceless :)

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Yea... they need to just make an announcement to clarify..


The Update effects dual NAND in two ways...

If you want to dual NAND on 15572, you will need to wait for new RGH patches to run your RGH NAND. Unless! you have your CPU key and a pre-update NAND dump

Does this block dual NAND? no, you could run two stock NANDs just fine.



That the new update MUST be revered engineered before the RGH (2.0) glitch can continue to be used against it...

And that Any NAND you have you must increment the LDV before you may boot it...

LDV info: http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77634


(Thanks Joesinger for the Dual Nand correction)
 
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jsinger47

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Yea... they need to just make an announcement to clarify..


that the update does NOT effect Dual NAND

That the new update MUST be revered engineered before the RGH (2.0) glitch can continue to be used against it...

And that Any NAND you have you must increment the LDV before you may boot it...

1. If you want to dual NAND an xbox already on 15572, you will need to wait for new RGH patches to run your RGH NAND
2. Does this block dual NAND? no, you could run two stock NANDs just fine.

EDIT: if you have your CPU key and a pre-15572 nand dump already, you can glitch into whatever
 
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Jeezzuuzz... This thread does my head in! We are, what, less than 24 hours since the update went wild, and I have read so many "Does this mean we can't...?" and "Should I update...?" This can be summed up in the following expression... WTF!!!!, STFD and STFU... in that order.

From what I can tell, the rules have not changed one iota. Learn some freakin patience.

1. Hold off. Why not... There are no games that require that you use 15572 this very minute.

2. If you really want to play online with a modded drive then just do what has pretty much always been the case - Revert to stock before upgrade. The answer to the question "Will I get banned if I don't revert to stock?" has not changed since "banhammer" days. Why the hell would anyone with more than 1 post against their name even think to ask it?

3. If you think you may want to glitch your console in the future - grab your CPU key now, before you upgrade so you stand the best chance (and why upgrade unless you need to?). This has also been standard advice for ages - certainly before 14719 came out... again, why would this change? And why would scene people be asking this?

4. There are no guarantees, ever. Just smile and be happy you didn't get a sh*tbox PS3.
 
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Jeezzuuzz... This thread does my head in! We are, what, less than 24 hours since the update went wild, and I have read so many "Does this mean we can't...?" and "Should I update...?" This can be summed up in the following expression... WTF!!!!, STFD and STFU... in that order.

From what I can tell, the rules have not changed one iota. Learn some freakin patience.

1. Hold off. Why not... There are no games that require that you use 15572 this very minute.

2. If you really want to play online with a modded drive then just do what has pretty much always been the case - Revert to stock before upgrade. The answer to the question "Will I get banned if I don't revert to stock?" has not changed since "banhammer" days. Why the hell would anyone with more than 1 post against their name even think to ask it?

3. If you think you may want to glitch your console in the future - grab your CPU key now, before you upgrade so you stand the best chance (and why upgrade unless you need to?). This has also been standard advice for ages - certainly before 14719 came out... again, why would this change? And why would scene people be asking this?

4. There are no guarantees, ever. Just smile and be happy you didn't get a sh*tbox PS3.
hear hear
 

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so what you are saying is that you don't understand the implications of a new CB, or what RGH entails
I was kinda thinking what Ubergeek https://team-xecuter.com/forums/member.php?u=38963said sometime ago, if we already have our cpu key we are in ok shape. We just need to wait on fix but we can always glitch our systems.

Good deal, I am not in no hurry to get the latest dash update I can play all my games just fine the way it is. :)
 
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jsinger47

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I was kinda thinking what Ubergeek https://team-xecuter.com/forums/member.php?u=38963said sometime ago, if we already have our cpu key we are in ok shape. We just need to wait on fix but we can always glitch our systems.

Good deal, I am not in no hurry to get the latest dash update I can play all my games just fine the way it is. :)
you are definitely right about the being able to RGH2 forever IF:

1. you have CPU key
2. you have RGH2able NAND dump
 
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you are definitely right about the being able to RGH2 forever IF:

1. you have CPU key
2. you have RGH2able NAND dump
And this is why, correct? (Taken from the RGH2.0 announcement)
In the slim boot chain the 2nd bootloader (CB) is split into two pieces. The first part simply starts encryption and loads the second part, which does fuse checks and all the things that the old single CB did. By glitching the first part (CBA), we take control of the system before the fuse checks occur and can patch them out.
Basically we can update to any dash we want, flash the glitch image back, and still glitch the vulnerable CB_A as there's no fuse checks saying "Hey, you updated to a new CB version, I'm not going to run"?
 

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The reason we advise flashing back to stock is not for the drive being flashed by MS, it's because there's always a chance they are reading the drive during the update and checking for CFW.
It's amazing more people don't seem to realize this. The fact that crossing the threshold from 12625 or lower to 13614 or higher triggers the DVD drive reflash should tell anyone that updates can put your DVD drive into "vendor" mode, thus bypassing the stealth of CFW during normal use.
 

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Jeezzuuzz... This thread does my head in! We are, what, less than 24 hours since the update went wild, and I have read so many "Does this mean we can't...?" and "Should I update...?" This can be summed up in the following expression... WTF!!!!, STFD and STFU... in that order.

From what I can tell, the rules have not changed one iota. Learn some freakin patience.

1. Hold off. Why not... There are no games that require that you use 15572 this very minute.

2. If you really want to play online with a modded drive then just do what has pretty much always been the case - Revert to stock before upgrade. The answer to the question "Will I get banned if I don't revert to stock?" has not changed since "banhammer" days. Why the hell would anyone with more than 1 post against their name even think to ask it?

3. If you think you may want to glitch your console in the future - grab your CPU key now, before you upgrade so you stand the best chance (and why upgrade unless you need to?). This has also been standard advice for ages - certainly before 14719 came out... again, why would this change? And why would scene people be asking this?

4. There are no guarantees, ever. Just smile and be happy you didn't get a sh*tbox PS3.
highlighted... that dont help us corona owners telling us to grab our CPU KEY before we upgrade our dash :(
 

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I just glitched a Jasper 256mb after the 15572 update, with only a dump of its 14719_CB_B. I don't know why everyone is staying to get the CPU Key before you update. There is no need as long as you have a copy of the old CB_B so you can get the KeyStream, so you can encrypt your custom CB_B for the glitch. Also that is only untill we work out what they did to the RC4 encryption
 
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jsinger47

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I just glitched a Jasper 256mb after the 15572 update, with only a dump of its 14719_CB_B. I don't know why everyone is staying to get the CPU Key before you update. There is no need as long as you have a copy of the old CB_B so you can get the KeyStream, so you can encrypt your custom CB_B for the glitch. Also that is only untill we work out what they did to the RC4 encryption
its easier for the end user to remember to just have a rgh2able nand (which contains your old CB_B) and your CPU key

of course, you can re-create the keystream with just a cpukey and using a donor decrypted cb_b
 
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nitram

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its easier for the end user to remember to just have a rgh2able nand (which contains your old CB_B) and your CPU key

of course, you can re-create the keystream with just a cpukey and using a donor decrypted cb_b
In my opinion if you don't know how sh*t works dont use it. If you dont know how RGH works dont do it.

I did this to see if the only thing they did hardware wise was blow a fuse, which is all they did that console is now back to being stock.

Software wise thats a different matter, even tho I have my CPU Key now the only bootloader I have been able to decrypt is CB_A. The encryption has changed on CB_B, not sure about CD,CE because the keys to decrypt them come from CB.
 
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