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Martin C

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No - lights on the chip only indicate that you're getting a voltage to it. You need to look at the rebuild and/or LPC points.

Is it rebooting 3 times then this is precisely where you need to be looking.

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rodpeters10

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i've examined the solder joints with a mag glass and everything appears to be connected. this is a brand new xbox and i got all the soldering done on the first shot so the board isn't burnt or missing any tracers. if i use the wire connector that came with the chip instead, it eliminates the need for the rebuild right? i could do a continuity test on the tracers through the build itself i guess. thanks again for the support.
jason
 

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Are you getting a 3x reboot regardless of what setting you have the chip set to? Are you sure you have the chip correctly seated on the pinheader? Have you tried booting from the backup BIOS? What happens if you unplug the external switch?

Before you start to dig into the soldering side, look into this first.
 

rodpeters10

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i get the 3x reboot if i power on with the eject switch. both power and eject at the same time do nothing, and the regular power button boots to regular MS dash. i had this chip working in my old 1.0 xbox, but the power supply blew out on me. but it is seated in there properly as it is the same way as i had it in the old xbox. i tried every combo of bank switches with no change, the X on the switch will only come on red. no blue or purple. if i disconnect the switch, same MS dash. i passed on all continuity tests which i did from the tips of the pins to the other end of the solder joint. i'd hate to have to scrap the lpc rebuild but i'm not sure what else to try. there's nothing special with the 1.6b besides the bank change is there?

jason
 

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Im guessing as its an old chip you had a X3 bios for the version 1.0-1.5 on there which is why it wont boot from bank1234 and you get a FRAG (bank1234 = on,on,off,off,off).

Is the chip a original X3 and not the newer X3CE, if thats the case then it may not actually have the 3.0.3 version of flashbios you require in banks 5678 (banks 5678 = off,on,off,off,off) which is why it also FRAG's when you select it. If this is the case then you need to get the chip flashed in another xbox to get it working properly.

I dont know if the 1.6b incompatibility would cause a FRAG with the incorrect version of flashbios in your backup bios though.
 

rodpeters10

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the chip is brand new. i'm not sure if it's an X3 or the X3CE. it's red if that matters at all. so with the 1.6b, i need to make sure to get the X3CE? if that's the case, i should be able to just pop the new chip in right? So you don't think yanking the pin header out and trying the wire intall is worth the time? it's not what i really want to do, but i also don't want to throw away any more cash. thanks to all for the help.

jason
 

Littlemiss

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Someone correct me if I ham wrong but as I understand it

Flashbios V3.0.1 good for XBoxes 1.0-1.6
Flashbios V3.0.3 good for XBox 1.6b
 

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Littlemiss said:
Someone correct me if I ham wrong but as I understand it

Flashbios V3.0.1 good for XBoxes 1.0-1.6
Flashbios V3.0.3 good for XBox 1.6b
That's right. Generally.
 

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Ok, I'm getting mixed messages.

Has this chip been flashed Prior to using it on this 1.6b?

If so, then as already mentioned you will need to boot from another bank. Try the Backup BIOS. If this reboots x3 as well then it's a faulty chip. If it boots to a blank screen with an orange LED then you could be in luck and just need it reflashed.

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rodpeters10

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it's deffinately the X3CE. i previously installed on a 1.0 xbox, got it to flash with bank settings 0n 0n 0ff 0ff 0ff. power supply went bad, bought a 1.6b. changed banks to off off off on off and many other configurations with no luck on getting the blue X on the front switch display. when i press power, it goes right to MS dash. power&eject does nothing, meaning doesn't even turn on, and eject by itself does on off on off on off FRAG. i have 2 blue leds on the chip with the red unprotect led as well. just can't get this bitch to boot up to bios! i gotta think it's f-d up because i have checked every solder point, cleaned everything up nice with contact cleaner, no splashes anywhere and a brand new board. any other thoughts? jason
 

Littlemiss

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Forgive me this is has already been stated

If it was in a 1.0 chances are it had flash bios 3.0.1
Since it is now in a 1.6b you will need flashbios 3.0.3
Also the backup normally has 3.0.1 on it

The same would be true even for X3 config live you will need the 1.6b version
Do you have another XBox that you could try the hotswap trick with? In order to get the correct bios on the chip?
 

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To boot to 3.03, your switched settings need to be Off-On-Off-Off. However, it sounds like your soldering is at fault, or possibly your chip.
 

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I would love to know why it doesn't even power on when you press power and eject together. That can only be a hardware issue.
 

rodpeters10

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i agree. like i said the box is brand new. i'm gonna see if they'll swap my chip.

thank. i'll post the results. jason
 

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From my understanding a 1.6b wont boot into a backup bios using the Eject & Power. That only works on prior versions of the Xbox (again this is from what I have read as well as tested on my 1.6b Xbox) but I may be mistaken.
 

shagga

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He says it wont power on at all with power and eject, not that it FRAGs or displays nothing.
 

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On a side note could you tell me what is the correct plug (as there are 2 same style female plugs on it) that should be used for the Power/Eject Adapter? My digital cam is missing so I can't show a pic of what I am asking and I can't seem to find a pic on the net?

Edit:

Hold up I just found a pic that I will put into Photoshop to circle waht I am saying.
 
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