Just received my Nand-X today and was wondering when the Xecuter tutorial was going to be ready?
PS: Product looks great!
~ GBK
PS: Product looks great!
~ GBK
Official Xecuter NAND-X installation tutorial ??
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Ubergeek
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Ditto...
Thanks all, I somehow missed that!!
But not I have what is probably a total solder-noob question.
I have some basic soldering experience, but wanted to throw a quick question out there.
On the non-xenon JTAG kit, the yellow and red wires have stripped ends that expose alot of wire. More than I would have thought be necessary. Should these just be clipped short or should something else be done with this extra wiring?
Thanks again!
~ GBK
But not I have what is probably a total solder-noob question.
I have some basic soldering experience, but wanted to throw a quick question out there.
On the non-xenon JTAG kit, the yellow and red wires have stripped ends that expose alot of wire. More than I would have thought be necessary. Should these just be clipped short or should something else be done with this extra wiring?
Thanks again!
~ GBK
I would hope there would be more then this. These "diagrams" may be sufficient for people that know what they are doing, but others, myself included, could use some more hand-holding. Also, a guide on using the nand-x, and a professionally put together guide on jtaging would be very helpful.
Ubergeek
Xecuter Groupie
From the tutorial.....
Simply tuck the cable under the panel so it holds in place - and cut the end of the cable to size then solder.
Ubergeek
Xecuter Groupie
I don't understand what more we need to show you ?
you place the QSB's over the points on the motherboard and solder the points. Thats it.
TBH JTAG'ing isn't meant for beginners so there is only so much "hand holding" we can do.
there are thousands of JTAG tutorials - they are not specific to nand-x - all methods and info will work the same. Its all found here on the forums.
Well, I haven't used my nand-x yet as it just arrived yesterday, so I don't know what I don't know. Its a very professional product and I would hope for more professional support. I understand its very easy, but the assumption should be that the users are stupid.
Pictures of the motherboard with arrows to the points of interest, followed by the pictures of the boards/wires/pins properly installed. Videos on soldering techniques and suggestion. Connecting the boards to the nand-x. Step by step instructions for what to do when the nand-x is connected to the computer. A detailed JTAG guide SPECIFIC to the nand-x. I undertstand that all(most) of the info is available. However, I don't know what I don't know and there is >2x more bad info out there then good correct info. I would expect/hope that the professionals that put together a nice commercial product would then support it by collecting all of the good correct info into a succinct users guide with extensive pics and video (including JTAG with warning that its not for beginners).
Pictures of the motherboard with arrows to the points of interest, followed by the pictures of the boards/wires/pins properly installed. Videos on soldering techniques and suggestion. Connecting the boards to the nand-x. Step by step instructions for what to do when the nand-x is connected to the computer. A detailed JTAG guide SPECIFIC to the nand-x. I undertstand that all(most) of the info is available. However, I don't know what I don't know and there is >2x more bad info out there then good correct info. I would expect/hope that the professionals that put together a nice commercial product would then support it by collecting all of the good correct info into a succinct users guide with extensive pics and video (including JTAG with warning that its not for beginners).
if they are to stupid to read then life is useless to them
i mean seriously look
http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=128
1st post very top of page any idea what it says ?
Sticky: NAND-X Installation Diagrams (
Ubergeek
Xecuter Groupie
this is console modding - its not Best Buy. It requires an assumed degree of skill.
We give you the info - in step by step guides, in photos, in videos what more do you need ?????? - all we require you to do is read. If you don't understand then you shouldn't be modding.
I can't believe you say that we would have to show a warning that JTAG'ing a console is not for beginners. You also say we should assume the user is stupid - yet they are buying a product that requires soldering skills, electronic skills and computer skills. Wow, that just happened
Come on dude - seriously.....
I have no idea how I missed that.. lol
Thanks for pointing out the obvious to me. I must have been all blurry eyed or something when looking over the thread.
Now off I go to solder my xbox to greatness!!!
~ GBK
Just received my Nand-X today and I completely second the poster - the info on this site is very fragmented and totally incomplete. You guys have JTAG'ed 10's if not 100's of XBoxes, please keep in mind that for your customers it's going to be the first one and their gonna have their hand sweating!
Moreover ... the reason your customers are buying your kit rather than trolling the forums and purchasing the few diodes/resistors needed (A LOT CHEAPER than a Nand-X) is to have an easier experience, with quality hardware AND some hand holding ...
So, examples of where your 'step-by-step guide' and video are lacking: the alternate point for DB1F1 is not mentioned - and from experience it's a lot easier for beginners since there is not fiberglass scratching involved.
Then, from both videos it is not clear:
- that you have to have the power cable in your XBox to read NAND,
- whether you need the DVD connected or not to boot into Xell (if you use the eject button you apparently need it)
- that you have to first move the slider to something else than Off or otherwise you will get a E79
- what to do/check/tweak when you get an E79 when booting into Xell
So ... please take 15 minutes of your time to gather your knowledge into a real step-by-step tutorial, your customers will thank you for that!
- that you have to have the power cable in your XBox to read NAND, <-- yes (Its in the instructions)
- whether you need the DVD connected or not to boot into Xell (if you use the eject button you apparently need it) <-- dvd not needed boot console using your eject button (its in the Xell instructions)
- that you have to first move the slider to something else than Off or otherwise you will get a E79 <-- Its in the instructions
- what to do/check/tweak when you get an E79 when booting into Xell <-- resisitor settings, solder points, nand dumps (Its in the instructions)
As you can see all these requests for info - the answers are actually in the instructions already
- whether you need the DVD connected or not to boot into Xell (if you use the eject button you apparently need it) <-- dvd not needed boot console using your eject button (its in the Xell instructions)
- that you have to first move the slider to something else than Off or otherwise you will get a E79 <-- Its in the instructions
- what to do/check/tweak when you get an E79 when booting into Xell <-- resisitor settings, solder points, nand dumps (Its in the instructions)
As you can see all these requests for info - the answers are actually in the instructions already
Hello guys,
recently I received my NAND-X and can't wait installing it.
Of course as always before undertaking a new hacking project I'm gathering some thorough information on how stuff works.
The installation is simple, the pictures given suffice for me.
However there are some details I'd like to have some clarification for.
So if you guys could help me out here. Thank you very much!
1. In your official install video a "freeboot" image is made.
(http://www.dports.me/nandx/nand-x.html)
I read in this thread: http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52199&page=3
Quote from User 192_26 "I'm actually using freeboot so I require the need for the onboard nand and the cygnos nand"
and a little further down:
"Xbreboot only requires the use of one nand while freeboot requires the use of two nands to be running."
This is conflicting. For the thread is half a year old, I assume freeboot has been developed to be compatible just with the stock NAND, so NO 2nd NAND from the Cygnos chip is needed?
2. What's the difference between XBReboot and freeboot (in short)?
How would I install XBR, since the "JTAG Tool 1.74" you are using is making a freeboot image?
3. I read something of briding 2 points, alternatively removing a resistor (this was the old method) to prevent the XBOX to be updated by a game or connected hard disk which would disable the JTAG hack and render the box unhackable (keywords: blown efuses).
Do you have any pics for Xenon / NON-Xenon-XBOXes?
recently I received my NAND-X and can't wait installing it.
Of course as always before undertaking a new hacking project I'm gathering some thorough information on how stuff works.
The installation is simple, the pictures given suffice for me.
However there are some details I'd like to have some clarification for.
So if you guys could help me out here. Thank you very much!
1. In your official install video a "freeboot" image is made.
(http://www.dports.me/nandx/nand-x.html)
I read in this thread: http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52199&page=3
Quote from User 192_26 "I'm actually using freeboot so I require the need for the onboard nand and the cygnos nand"
and a little further down:
"Xbreboot only requires the use of one nand while freeboot requires the use of two nands to be running."
This is conflicting. For the thread is half a year old, I assume freeboot has been developed to be compatible just with the stock NAND, so NO 2nd NAND from the Cygnos chip is needed?
2. What's the difference between XBReboot and freeboot (in short)?
How would I install XBR, since the "JTAG Tool 1.74" you are using is making a freeboot image?
3. I read something of briding 2 points, alternatively removing a resistor (this was the old method) to prevent the XBOX to be updated by a game or connected hard disk which would disable the JTAG hack and render the box unhackable (keywords: blown efuses).
Do you have any pics for Xenon / NON-Xenon-XBOXes?
Its good that you are collecting information, but information on these things can't be just obtained in 1 quick view. What were you doing when your Nand-X hadn't been delivered ? You should have then looked for information, and contributed in different threads, so that you would have a good concept of these things by now.
Anyway, your answers:
1. The thread you were reading should be a year old not even half a year old. Freeboot on 2nd NAND is like ancient history now
. Since freeboot 0.031 was released, you don't need 2nd NAND to install it. It can be installed on the Xbox360 NAND.2. The biggest difference is that XBR uses 8955 kernel while freeboot 0.032 uses 9199, so that you can also play games which require the 9199 kernel installed on your Xbox360. Other than that, freeboot is also much more stable than XBR and is better than XBR in any way you think.
If I were you, I would not think of installing XBR. Its outdated and most people who used to have XBR have updated to freeboot till now. So, because of the above given reasons, there is no option of installing XBR given in JTAG Tool, since its a up-to-date program, and not outdated like XBR.
3. I think you should consult the following thread for your answer: http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53292
Hope you find the given answers useful...
I said that because you said it required more skill and knowledge and therefor you would not provide a detailed guide.
Im not trying to be a jerk. But seriously, I could build all of the parts myself to do the JTAG hack. I didn't because I am busy and I didn't want to take the time. I purchase a professionally made solution and would like to be spoon fed a little when spending my money. I don't think I am alone here.
You do provide most of the info, but also assume a degree of skill and knowledge. I have done soldering before with PSX and Xbox. However, I am far from an expert. What is the best way to prep and solder quick solder pads? What type of solder is best? What gauge should I use? Should I use flux? What is the best way to apply flux if I should? Do I need to prep the motherboard in any way?
I know I am taking a higher risk doing this myself. But I am doing it because I like to learn. Its just hard to sift through all of the crap out there. As I said before, there is more then probably 10x as much bad/incorrect info as there is good.
A detailed walk through guide with plenty of videos and pictures of the whole process would be much appreciated.
Q. What type of solder is best?
A. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062725
Q. What gauge should I use
A. if you are buying Nand-X you do not need any wire it's all done with qsb ( quick solder boards )
Q. Should I use flux?
A. Yes you should ALWAYS USE FLUX WHEN SOLDERING after soldering clean fluxed area with isopropyl alcohol
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049774
Q. What is the best way to apply flux if I should?
A. take a q-tip cut the cotton off one end of and use that as an applicator
Q. Do I need to prep the motherboard in any way?
A. fiberglass pencil
http://www.modtraders.co.uk/xecuter-fiberglass-scratch-pen.html
A detailed walk through guide with plenty of videos and pictures of the whole process would be much appreciated.
http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54300 <-- that guide surpasses the one that i made
A. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062725
Q. What gauge should I use
A. if you are buying Nand-X you do not need any wire it's all done with qsb ( quick solder boards )
Q. Should I use flux?
A. Yes you should ALWAYS USE FLUX WHEN SOLDERING after soldering clean fluxed area with isopropyl alcohol
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049774
Q. What is the best way to apply flux if I should?
A. take a q-tip cut the cotton off one end of and use that as an applicator
Q. Do I need to prep the motherboard in any way?
A. fiberglass pencil
http://www.modtraders.co.uk/xecuter-fiberglass-scratch-pen.html
A detailed walk through guide with plenty of videos and pictures of the whole process would be much appreciated.
http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54300 <-- that guide surpasses the one that i made
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Ubergeek
Xecuter Groupie
Yes but you are asking to spoon feed you on how to solder. Sorry but aside from giving you a few helpful tips that isn't our responsibility and it is nothing that google can't show you.
You say you've soldered PSX etc before - so whats the problem ? there is no difference.
All the other data with regards to how to install and use the nand-x is very clear in the tutorials. 99% of users are managing just fine - and that 1% are those that really shouldn't be modding if they can't follow simple guides - JTAG'ing isn't really for beginners.
Im not being sh*tty here but there is only so much we can show you other than actually coming to your house and doing it for you ourselves.
Thanks, M AzzeM K, for the confirmation on freeboot.
I figured that it would work but even in the 0.32-release there's a note in the readme-file that it would only work on 2 NANDs.
As for the resistors - well, I must admit - a simple google query solved that question.
But thanks for the link - the pics from there were much better than the blurry ones I found.
I did 2 JTAG hacks yesterday and - except for a glitch in JTAG Tool on the Jasper 16 MB - everything worked nicely.
The NAND-X sure is a very good purchase. I can't imagine waiting 30 mins or more for an image dump via LPT...
I figured that it would work but even in the 0.32-release there's a note in the readme-file that it would only work on 2 NANDs.
As for the resistors - well, I must admit - a simple google query solved that question.
But thanks for the link - the pics from there were much better than the blurry ones I found.
I did 2 JTAG hacks yesterday and - except for a glitch in JTAG Tool on the Jasper 16 MB - everything worked nicely.
The NAND-X sure is a very good purchase. I can't imagine waiting 30 mins or more for an image dump via LPT...