oh god. i hate my family.

Sage2050

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so my tv broke the other day, so i had to put my xbox in the family room to play it. i come home after soccer practice today to find that it has been moved back to the old room. i go and plug it back up and find that i keep getting error 09 for some reason. i open the box up and take out the hdd and dvd drive. i notice the chip (x3) has kinda fallen down a bit, so i push it back up. i go to start putting the dvd drive back in and theres POP and a spark comes from the x3/mobo. i freak out. i turn on the box (no dvd drive or hdd) and either the chip or the circuits under it start to smoke! not only that, but the box fragsi freak out again and turn it off quickly. i take out the chip and look at everything and it looks alright, so i go to tape up the 5v pin (like i should have a long time ago. thanks dad) and put everything back together. FRAG. i try booting to MS dash. FRAG. come on guys, please tell me i can fix this. i am almost in tears here.
 

Shibz

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I don't think its ever a good idea to mess around in xbox while its plugged in. sorry about your loss, but I think you are going to need to get a new mobo and/or x3. Describe the damage to the mobo and x3 and then I might be able to help. Don't take this the wrong way, but you can't really blame this on your family, they install your chip without first clipping/taping that stupid power thing. They also didn't take your xbox apart and move stuff around while it had power. My x3 always looks like its "fallen down a bit" but I cliped off the power wire.
 

Sage2050

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well me and my dad installed the chip, and told him we should have done something about that wire because the chip had a tendency to lean off the pin header, but he insisted that it was impossible for it to short iself or the mobo out. the problem is, there is no visible damage. no burns, no cut tracers or anything. as for messing with it with the power cord plugged in, i do it all the time and don't even think twice about it. i figure if its turned off theres no power going though it. i know this is wrong, because ive done a lot of work with electricity before (including computer monitors - scary), but ive never had a problem before now.
 

Sage2050

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if i can find a way to get into my hdd i can get the x3data.txt off of that, because its still there. if i do that, i can update the eeprom on a new mobo and everything would be fine and dandy.
 

IvanK

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Have you tried booting off of the backup bios on the X3 and reflashing via http? Your onboard bios might be toast, and your x3 bios may be toast, but if your backup bios can be accessed, you might be able to reflash and unlock your drive from X3CL.

Just shooting from the hip here.

Also, bummer about the xbox.
 

Shibz

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well, I think you need a new mobo. Try unlocking the HD with the code TEAMASSEMBLY when you get a new mobo. That code will work if you have ever locked your HD with config magic. BTW I know how it feels to fry an xbox. I bumped a tiny ceramic capacitor off my xbox while soldering more ram onto my xbox. I also lost my HDD key, but I never used config magic so the master password didn't work for me.
 

Sage2050

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IvanK said:
Have you tried booting off of the backup bios on the X3 and reflashing via http? Your onboard bios might be toast, and your x3 bios may be toast, but if your backup bios can be accessed, you might be able to reflash and unlock your drive from X3CL.

Just shooting from the hip here.

Also, bummer about the xbox.
if by booting to backup bios you mean going into flashbios, i just tried it and it still frags.
 

fklentz

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If there's no power going thru it then how does it turn on? If you took it apart you'd see that the on/off switch is connected to the motherboard, not the power supply and in fact when plugged in the board has 3.3 volts thru parts of it.

If you take the motherboard out you may find that one of the pins from the pinheader may not have been soldered completely and when you put the chip in it may have pushed the pin "out" rather than the pin going into the socket on the chip. If that did happen the pin grounded to the metal shielding under the case and that is connected to the ground. That's just my idea of what may have happened as I see that posted here and other sites where people say the same thing happened to them.
 

los93sol

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Sage, take some decent pics and host them on imageshack so me and the other people here can take a look at the damage you did. I can normally fix bad traces and problems like this for people, but I have to know what I am up against before I tell you for sure.
 

Sage2050

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god, i have a game stuck in the drive too!

this has NOT been a good week for me. first my TV, now this? there goes all my christmas money.
 

Tank_Killer

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sounds to me like another +5v pin mishap. PLEASE PEOPLE INSULATE YOUR +5V, thats if you dont have a CE (or 1.6 box).

tank
 

Sage2050

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anyway, here are pics of my mobo






thats the best i can do for the second one.

btw, notice how the MCPX is brown in the center. this is about where the smoke was coming from. btw, why did xecuter add that 5vpin if if could cause probs like this? seems like an accident waiting to happen.
 

Sage2050

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yeah, im just trying to accept it. this is gonna be a major setback. i think im just gonna go ahead and buy a new box.

that is, unless i can find someone willing to sell me a mobo without a hdd with it.

or if anyone is willing to donate :roll: