Ok i bought another one now what?

Drunken Bomber

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Alright well, I screwed up my xbox trying to install an x3. Yeah im lame i know. Well now i have ordered a new premodded xbox. I need my xbox live account and all my saves and stuff off of my other hard drive. Can i put the old hard drive in the new box withought messing anything up? How many times can a chip be flashed? Am i still in the game???
 

TadaenSylvermane

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If you unlocked the drive on your 1st xbox then yes you can use it. If not then your out of luck unfortunatley. To date i dont think anyone knows how to unlock a locked hdd outside of doing a hot swap... someone correct me if im wrong. As for the chip... almost all modchips can be flashed unlimited i think
 

Drunken Bomber

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Rookio said:
You can take the eeprom from your old mobo and use that in conjunction with your old hdd.
Woah, it sounds like it will work coming from you, so it makes me happy, yet i have no freakin clue what your talking about.
 

CoHPhasor

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Want it in English?

The thing that keeps a NORMAL Xbox HD from being connected to ANY OTHER device is "ATA locking". The "lock" is something that is built into the ATA technology.
(ATA is how the HD, DVD ROM, and mobo communicate)

What happens is the HD and your motherboard's EEPROM have a Locking Key that only matches eachother. Ergo, you take the Xbox HD, put it in another Xbox, and the mobo of COURSE has the wrong key for the lock, and is UNABLE to access the HD.

NORMALLY if you have a working modded box, you can unlock it, (ONLY from the original box) you can backup the mobo's EEPROM, OR you use "Config Magic Final" to re-lock the drive with a key that YOU specify.

Now, IF you had gotten the original to work, you could have backed up the EEPROM to your X3, set the X3 into the new box, and Presto! You could have unlocked it.

What was suggested above is A only for someone who is TRULY desperate, and MUST have the data from the drive.
You see, it involves DESOLDERING the EEPROM from your original mobo, and the new mobo, THEN RESOLDERING the original EEPROM into the NEW Xbox.

I don't mean to flame, but understand, having toasted your last box I would say FORGET about it.

Consider, your Xbox live account can be rebuilt, simply go through the on-screen options, and if it comes down to it talk to a friend who has basically the same saves as you and use a mem card to transfer his saves to your machine.

I'm really sorry about the luck. IF your data is so important that you must have it, Llama can repair your old Xbox. They are the official repair site listed on the main page.

http://www.llamma.com/
 

Drunken Bomber

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Will they repair broken traces? 2 of them really close together, and i already attempted it and got the silver stuff everywhere. lol can they still fix it? oh and i love you guys man....
 

Rookio

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I'll fix it for you. Send it to me and i'll quote you :)
PM me for me address. I'm in australia.

Hey Cophasor, thanx for typing out the procedure!! I know i should have done that myself, but you know how it is... sore fingers after a long day at work!! :)
 

Drunken Bomber

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Rookio said:
I'll fix it for you. Send it to me and i'll quote you :)
PM me for me address. I'm in australia.

Hey Cophasor, thanx for typing out the procedure!! I know i should have done that myself, but you know how it is... sore fingers after a long day at work!! :)

First of all, lets look at what has been said here. I broke a trace, I then attempted to repair it , at which point I exposed the second trace. Then I used the conductive pen and didnt clean it up right so now theres silver all over about 5 traces. Now, do you still think you can fix it? And if so, pm me with the address to ship it to , and the qoute, then give me an idea on how much it cost to ship to australia from america, because im pretty sure its pricy. and well see if its worth it. Thanx man. I really do love you guys :eek: :D
 

Rookio

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Yeah shipping can be pricy... and i didn't recall you using a conductive pen. When you said silver stuff, i assumed you had solder everywhere... silly me! I also made the assumption of you being over towards my side of the world, you being online at present and all... :) Sorry!

I'm always happy to give anything a shot. Wouldn't guarantee it though, without having the board to look at!
 

Drunken Bomber

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So then with the silver all over the traces you dont think its possible to fix? because i dont have a camera.
 

CoHPhasor

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First, Rookio,...me an you seem to chase eachother across this forum helpin ppl, and when one of us has slipped the other has caught, so I just think we make a good team. =-D

Next, Bomber, I know you don't have a camera but consider this; You have botched electronic soldering, which is hard to know if something is fixable by description,
(Some things that are near impossible for some is merely todays work for others)
and I'm SURE shipping your box to Australia ain't gonna be cheap, so GET A FRIEND'S camera! ;-)

ALSO, ask Rookio if he would be okay with you not sending the Xbox with the HD installed, or DVD ROM. Having less weight will cost you lots less money.
EXPLAIN to Rookio what you would want him to do, and he'll tell you if he'll need ALL the Xbox's parts or not.
 

Drunken Bomber

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CoHPhasor said:
First, Rookio,...me an you seem to chase eachother across this forum helpin ppl, and when one of us has slipped the other has caught, so I just think we make a good team. =-D

Next, Bomber, I know you don't have a camera but consider this; You have botched electronic soldering, which is hard to know if something is fixable by description,
(Some things that are near impossible for some is merely todays work for others)
and I'm SURE shipping your box to Australia ain't gonna be cheap, so GET A FRIEND'S camera! ;-)

ALSO, ask Rookio if he would be okay with you not sending the Xbox with the HD installed, or DVD ROM. Having less weight will cost you lots less money.
EXPLAIN to Rookio what you would want him to do, and he'll tell you if he'll need ALL the Xbox's parts or not.
Well i have thought about that yes, basicly what im trying to find out, are we talking theory here? Or practical solutions? Have you done anything like this before??? And I will try to get a camera, although i belive i explained it well enough, the Ground trace is broken, the one next to it is exposed, and theres silver all over those 2 and 2 others. lol Its quite a mess.
 

Rookio

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Hey, to quote another lurker in these forums...

Catalyst said:
Naw just mail it to me... heck I don't even need a return address!

Ha Ha ha... aw forget it.

Yup again Cophasor I find myself agreeing with you. I think your right, great team. Wouldn't need the whole box, but like yeah... shipping all the way to oz from the US? I'd be happy to do it for you but if our positions were reversed, i wouldn't ship that far for a repair job!
 

CoHPhasor

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Well, considering that Llama.com is an a location that I don't know, it'd prolly be a pretty penny to ship there too. Heck, if I were him, I'd let you know my EXACT version, then tell you what the power connecter on the mobo looked like, and if one of yours matches I'd bubble wrap the MOBO, put it in a peabut filled box that is a little larger than the mobo, then ship it away!
(That is unless he finds ANOTHER lurker on the board who lives closer, sees the pic, then says they'll do it.)

Of course, just my humble opinion. ;-)
 

Drunken Bomber

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Just to add more twists to this thread, because i know you guys are loving this. I remeber getting the error saing your xbox needs repair with the number 5. And according to lahma that means the hdd is unlocked and the original bios wouldent load it. So, my soldering probably wasnt good so the chip didnt load and the original bios wouldent work with a unlocked hdd so i screwed with it in frustration broke a trace, now with the tutorial i saw on there site. I wish i would have gone there in the first place, they say just use a wire, but now that im not worried about the trace fixing problem theres still another. The silver crap i got all over the thing!! :( Hey! when i get all my files of the hdd anyone wanna buy a xbox with a xecuter 3 just no switch kuz its broke? :rolleyes: 100 bucks :D lol
 
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CoHPhasor

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ROFGL!

Well, as you mentioned the M$ dashboard does NOT function when the HDD is unlocked PERIOD.
SO, if you held the power button too long (Got the red X and NOT the blue) it would have had the chip disabled, ergo the error.
Now, IF you had gotten to the point that you could unlock the HD, I think you might have had your chip working, but in an accidental panic after pressing power too long and disabling the mod you saw the error and shot back to the drawing board.

Patience Daniel-san.
 

Drunken Bomber

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CoHPhasor said:
ROFGL!

Well, as you mentioned the M$ dashboard does NOT function when the HDD is unlocked PERIOD.
SO, if you held the power button too long (Got the red X and NOT the blue) it would have had the chip disabled, ergo the error.
Now, IF you had gotten to the point that you could unlock the HD, I think you might have had your chip working, but in an accidental panic after pressing power too long and disabling the mod you saw the error and shot back to the drawing board.

Patience Daniel-san.
lmao! that is kinda funny, but no. I did have the chip working properly, but after failing at the flash attempt i turned off my box to turn the switch on the chip, and then once i booted again the chip didnt. At that point i already unlocked the hdd but i thought i locked it back up again ( hmm i hope i didnt ) anyway thats when i went on a rampage on the motherboard. :( while trying to pull the ground wire back up to re solder i ripped the trace. Im sooo stupid!!!!! I hate myself. $250 dollars down the drain!
 
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Rookio

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Yep, Drunken, just send me the board, I've sent you a pm with my address. I'll take a look and be honest with you. If i fix it i'll send it back. If i can't, i'll still send it back. If it goes back to you working you can compensate me accordingly, if not, no harm done.

Hows that?