phat RGH , and returning to non-RGH

BL4K3Y

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I suggest using 360 Multi Builder or Python command line to build an ECC image and then use the following command in NandPro:
Code:
nandpro usb: +w16 image_00000000.ecc
(assuming you are using a USB flasher)
 
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sosotiit

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will try in the next 30 min

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Probabily long shot but your B point on qsb (r4b24) might be shorting to c3b2. worth checking
How can I test that? C3B2 is under the qsb, any alternate point to c3b2 I can test from??
 

sosotiit

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I suggest using 360 Multi Builder or Python command line to build an ECC image and then use the following command in NandPro:
Code:
nandpro usb: +w16 image_00000000.ecc
(assuming you are using a USB flasher)
used multibuilder and nandpro usb: +w16 image_00000000.ecc,
flashed went well but no go after 2 glitches in 11 tries
 

sosotiit

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What's the CB version?

Note that a Falcon with CB 5772 cannot be glitched.
for a minute you had my heart stop :eek2:, no it is cb 5771

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How can I test that? C3B2 is under the qsb, any alternate point to c3b2 I can test from??
from what I read if you short c3b2 to r4b24 the coolrunner does not blink??? is that right
My cr blinks regularly so do not beleive that is the issue but confirm symptoms of a short c3b2 to r4b24
 

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from what I read if you short c3b2 to r4b24 the coolrunner does not blink??? is that right
My cr blinks regularly so do not beleive that is the issue but confirm symptoms of a short c3b2 to r4b24
sorry I meant plse confirm what are symptoms of a short c3b2 to r4b24
 

sosotiit

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sorry I meant plse confirm what are symptoms of a short c3b2 to r4b24

well it was not that, Desoldered the r4b24 on qsb and inserted an electrical tape under it, then soldered a wire from crunner to FT2R2 with exact same results.

also the other other point C3B2 was not showing any trace of solder .

is there any way to adjust the timing of the signals sent from the coolrunner? (like on slim will wire length)

other than that, I resign :)
 

sosotiit

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falcon glitches immediately or not at all

Ok everyone time to wrap-up on this, and if there are no other viable lead to resolve then I must come to the conclusion that this specific unit is a difficult one for the coolrunner to glitch.

It is a falcon (cb 5771) and it is glitching only one out of five attempts. When it is glitching then it does so immediately, if not (the 5 other attempts) then it does not glitch at all.

At this point I am left with trying to see if there are any ways to adjust the timing by which the CR glitches the x360.

I feel to have excluded most of the other factors , but any suggestion on what might have been overlooked is welcomed

Coolrunner (note they both work fine in my slim, reprogrammed obviously!!!)
1) Tried two different coolrunner (revB) , so excluded the CR itself
2) tried cap activated/deactivated and switch to phat or slim
3) programmed to falcon
- with Jtagtools,
-also did with nandpro (NandPro xsvf: falcon.xsvf)
Thus excluded the programming of the CR


Electrical level (all soldering done with good equipment, flux, and experience)
1) Wiring
-tried the 2 sets of phat wires included in the two CR
-tried cat 5 wire
-Tried shielded thin coax on blue and green wire (with shield grounded)
-for the R4b24 point, I desoldered the QSB and went to alternate point FT2R2 (no bridging to C3B2)
So excluded the wiring

2) routing
-Blue wire usual below the coils pins, and also tried above the coils pins (running beside the green)
and to the alternate near the the front of the board running the cale under the shroud (as per pic)
-Green usual above the coil pins, and also just under the x-clips, and under the Xclips,
and going the other way behing the fan opening
-Yellow staying near the memory chip, or as much left and as high as possible
So excluded the routing

Image flashed
1) ECC
-prepared one with jtagtools, another with PythonCryto, and another with multiBuilder
-flashed with jtagtools, and also tried with nandpro usb: +w16 image_00000000.ecc
2) Freeboot.bin image ( dash 13604) note that I had excluded this since the ecc was already not glitching
as it should for a falcon. But just to be sure…
-prepared an image with Xebuild, jtagtools, and multibuild
-flashed with both jtagtools, and also rawflash v4
Thus excluded the image

also returned to original nand.bin and disconnected the coolrunner and all is fin so the x360 itself is OK!!!

As mentioned, I am left with what I consider a difficult x360 and trying to see if there are any adjustment to the timing possible to improve this (like the cable length on slim or the +/- adjustment on some other chip)??? or other changes to timing files...

any leads are welcomed, tia, soso
 

sosotiit

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it seems the few cb5771 that are difficult to rgh are all refurb form early 2010 (also found this post ) just before the cb5772 started.

was happy to see the news today about new rgh 2.0 http://team-xecuter.com/team-xecuter-presents-rgh-2-0/

Codenamed RGH 2.0, new features introduced:

Hack now works on new CB's (14717/14719 update)
Hack now works with all Refurbished Split CB's (4577, 5772, 6752)
...
looking forward to it

soso