Please, everybody. Stop using Slayer's.

Sage2050

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now that the x3 can be flashed through http, there's really no need to use it (uness you don't have a computer - but then why are you even here?). for anyone (mainly newbies) planning to use their modded box for more than just playing burned games, slayers will do nothing but confuse you and cause problems down the road. it makes everything much easier in the long run just to do everything yourself, that way you know where everything goes and whatnot. for the love of god, stop being lazy. also, its a blank cd saved.
 

IvanK

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That's your opinion. I don't understand why we need a thread to discuss it.
 

halomaster7777

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Becuase Slayer's is pointless and we don't want a bunch of posts asking how to burn the disc right, when there is a guide on this site.
 
Sage2050 said:
for anyone (mainly newbies) planning to use their modded box for more than just playing burned games, slayers will do nothing but confuse you and cause problems down the road. it makes everything much easier in the long run just to do everything yourself, that way you know where everything goes and whatnot. for the love of god, stop being lazy. also, its a blank cd saved.
Hands up who used Slayers install to get up an running? Who found it confusing?
Who really cares - and only wants a simple way to get up and running, backing up games to the HDD, playing games off the HDD, without having to go though and figure out the relationship between where everything goes?

Use Slayers or don't use slayers. I'm not going to not use Slayers because you think it is a waste of space. I'll also recommend it to people that ARE confused about where everything goes - because here's the kicker - it puts everything where it needs to be so you have a running system.

You have an opinion. So do I ... and you know what they say ...
Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one and its full of sh*t

(will that get sensored?)
 

IvanK

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Who cares if it's pointless if it'll save 100 threads on "how do I install avalaunch" or whatever else. What slayers provides is a good starting point for the total noob. It gives you a cut at the most common apps and puts them in a spot where they're reasonably usable instead of surfing around through irc looking for files not knowing what to grab. Doesn't sound pointless to me.

It's like saying "don't use solderless chips because they're pointless." Maybe to you because you can solder, but to someone who isn't sure and doesn't know anyone who can solder then it's an option. It's not Xecuter's recommended option, but they do provide a solderless adapter for those who want to use it.

The point is "options" and that's never pointless.

Once people become more comfortable configuring their box, they'll go in and edit their ini/xml files and get it running but holy balls, first of all this topic is pointless and second of all it's not X3 related so why the fsck is it in general discussion.

Talk about pointless.... jeez...
 

ltrain1976

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I like slayers, when I lost my xbox dash I poped in the disk and got it back. Also It put everything on that I wanted to do with my newly modded xbox, and more that I diddnt even know about. I think It's hassle free and great.

Thats my opinion
 

Sage2050

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IvanK said:
Who cares if it's pointless if it'll save 100 threads on "how do I install avalaunch" or whatever else. What slayers provides is a good starting point for the total noob. It gives you a cut at the most common apps and puts them in a spot where they're reasonably usable instead of surfing around through irc looking for files not knowing what to grab. Doesn't sound pointless to me.
maybe i have too much faith in humanity. you know, thinking that people will actually read up on how to do things before they dive in headfirst. i guess i'm wrong then.
 

IvanK

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Probably. By and large people are lazy and stupid. They're also impatient, and would rather use an easy tool to hit the ground running than get a stiffy feeling all 3l337 because they waded through a collection of ini files and xml config files.

Do you even pay any attention to half of the threads on these forums??? If you think people come into this deal prepared with the knowledge of how to set up a modded xbox the first time you're sadly mistaken.
 

muggs

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Please, everybody stop using windows you can write your own scripts and set everything up exactly how you want it to be. It will also save you time in the long run because you are the one who made the program and you will know exactly how to fix it yourself.
:roll:


muggs
 
Code:
dosseg
.model small
.stack 100h
.data
msg1 db 'Coding your own OS sucks',0dh,0ah,'$'

.code
main  proc
      mov    ax,@data
      mov    ds,ax

      mov    ah,9
      mov    dx,offset msg1
      int    21h

      mov    ax,4C00h
      int    21h
main  endp
end   main
 

halomaster7777

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See that only means somthing to a few select people in these forums, plz don't be criptic with your posts, literally.
 
halomaster7777 said:
See that only means somthing to a few select people in these forums, plz don't be criptic with your posts, literally.
And thats the point - ini files and xml files are cryptic to newbs. Slayers hides those details from those that don't need/want to know about it until they are ready to learn.

FWIW - That code is a x86 assembler file that compiles to an executable that when run at the command prompt will say "Coding your own OS sucks".
 

IvanK

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TokenUser - I knew I could live a happy life without ever having to look at that stuff again. Brilliant example but a bit like making a subtle point with a nuclear warhead. I'm surprised you didn't write it in raw machine code just to really fudge with them.

And no, it's been long enough that I really can't read that stuff anymore, and I think I'm a happier person for it. Hat's off to you.
 
Since this thread will go nowhere, and I want to see something more constructive, I have started a different thread ...What are the best of breed apps for the new X3 user?. If I get enouh constructive feedback, I'll pull together an "install disk "as recommended by the forum for the newbs".
 

IvanK

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halomaster7777 said:
OK you have a point I'm just slayer as a product isn't that good.
It's not a product. It's free as in beer. But even if you had to pay for that kind of convenience (and if it were legal), I'm willing to bet some people would.

Ich sauge kein Schwanz. Sie saugen die Schwotze von tot Manns Hodensack.

Been 11 years since I had German in high school, but I think I can still effectively play the dozens.
 
IvanK said:
And no, it's been long enough that I really can't read that stuff anymore, and I think I'm a happier person for it. Hat's off to you.
Psst - I'll let you in on a secret. I Google'd the code :) ... I used to be able to write it from scratch, but was far better at 68000, SPARC, and 370XA mainframe assembler. But that was over 15 years ago now - before halomaster7777 was even born ;)
 

IvanK

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Yeah... when he was born... I was his age....

I think I need a beer.