agreed nutsak...the only thing i can think to add to all that's been said is this...I've been doing this for years, and have recently successfully chipped 300 xboxes with xenium ice chips for a pre-mod xbox retailer (of course for my own box it's xecuter or nothing)...point being...I don't care how good you think you are, How much experience you've had, or if you're bunnie himself...when you attempt to get an xbox to do what M$ specifically did not want done to it...you must be fully prepared mentally...to ruin your xbox...that's not to say that knowledge, experience, and a steady hand aren't musts...rather to inform anyone who might be considering chipping they're first or thousandth box...that this is what i consider a black art...one that may cost you a box or two to learn is all...there's my 2 cents