POWER-UP, TURNS OFF, POWERS UP, TURNS OFF WTF

chickengas

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OK, I havent used my box in about a week. It sits quietly on the shelf unused. Today I go to turn it on, and turns on for about one second, then shuts off. Then it comes back on, and shuts off immediately. .... does it again. WTF is up?? It was working fine the last time I used..it hasnt been so much as bumped and its freaking out on me. Anyone experience this? Dont tell me bad solder joint either, cuz its been working for months without a problem and it hasnt been moved. I'm starting to think the X3 chip may have some kind of flaw in it..I cant explain it. HELP...
 

naoneo

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you describe fragging.
rather than point fingers at the x3, how about you post some useful info, such as;

Can you boot to ms dash?
Have you (gotton over yourself and all probability) and checked the solder points anyway?
Has anyone else had access to the machine?
Which bios was being used at the time
Which modifications (if any) were done
what model xbox
any other info you can provide.


not complex info, but it makes assisting you alot fking easier, just an idea.

Oh, and "working fine" you say?

Quoting YOU, here.
My xbox will boot fine...i can play it all day..no issues. THEN if I want to turn it off for a little bit, or sometimes just restart it, it automaticall tries to boot to the MS bios I think... None of the X3 lights come on, after it boots the RED X comes on and I get error 13. I can unplug the box for about 5-10 minutes, plug it back in, and it works fine again. It never freezes, stops working or reboots on its own...theorhetically, if I never turned it off, it would work fine forever.

Does this sound like a bad solder point? If so....which one would be the likely suspect? I hate to go over ALL the points with new solder with the chance of ruining all the good points. PLEASE help..I'm enjoying this SOO much, but this X3 problem is really getting on my nerves. Thanks for any advice!!!
>_>
 

michael816

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Sounds like a bad D0 point... Ive had LOTS of those before.
 

chickengas

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Thanks for replying...however, the QUOTE you listed was from a previous problem which was ironed out. SINCE then it has worked flawlessly. Now, I thought when I said it turns on, and shuts off after a second, that would kind of tell you that NOTHING loaded...so that question should be answered. All solder points were triple checked with the last problem. Now, if we have to keep opening our xboxs to check solder points, that would lead me to beleive the X3 could quite possibly causing the xbox to generate too much heat, thus, popping off otherwise good solder points.

Can you boot to ms dash? NO
Have you (gotton over yourself and all probability) and checked the solder points anyway? NOT AGAIN
Has anyone else had access to the machine? NOT BEEN TOUCHED
Which bios was being used at the time 1959
Which modifications (if any) were done X3, 160 gig
what model xbox NOT 1.0, not 1.6 Somewhere in between

If your gonna quote me...make sure its current.
 

trubored

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don't rule out a bad solder joint, solder corrodes over time, especially with heat. rip it open, make sure everything is shiny
 

chickengas

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I'm sure your wrong. How can you explain no problems at all, then one day, you turen it on and poof...it frags. Couldnt POSSIBLY be the chip...the chip couldnt POSSIBLY be overheating anything could it? Perhaps if you stepped down off your throne and looked into some of the matters instead of pointing the finger at US and our INSTALLTIONS all the time, we could get some progress. If these things continually go wrong, whats the answer we get? CHECK YOUR SOLDER POINTS...uh huh, well, I'm sick of opening up my box to recheck solder points I KNOW are good. They've worked fine for a LONG time...to have them suddenly be BAD...is really stretching things. I think your chip overheats the boxes, perhaps thats why the solder points come undone?? In that case, its not out soldering..its your chip. I really dont know what the answer to the fragging is, but then, I dont think you do either....or you'd fix it.
 

naoneo

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and it couldnt POSSIBLY be your solder job, even though you have previosly threads requiring help with your dodgy install, and it couldnt possibly be that your dodgy install fuxed the chip?!
ever considered that you fried something on the mobo/chip previously, and it was only a matter of time/heat that it completely died?

the reason people say "check your solder points", is because 99.99999% of the "HALP MY XBOX IT WORK NO MORE" threads, are from people who did a bad install.
as for hear, feel free to come to my place, ill whip the lid off the xbox, play games for a few hours and you can cladly touch the modchip and see that it, at most, is "luke warm"

go check the solder points with a multimeter and make sure theyre good THEN reply and say its the chip, maybe people will actually listen to you
 

JimBobUK

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why not try removing the chip and see if the Xbox boots then!
 

drrellik

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ok, first post. i tried to do my install and failed. I get the same problem. I since have removed everything, and guess what, STILL get the fragging problem mentioned here. I have checked my board where i did all the soldering, and dont see any messed traces anywhere. dont know weather trying to reinstall the mod will help or not.

like i said, i have everything removed (all mod parts) and still get the power on and off three times then flash red and green.... :(

and now , no one has any in stock. so i cant even replace it. :( i think i might be screwed...
 

sirshady420

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R u sure that you dont have any solder splash crossing any of your leads? Make sure that the complete area around the spot where the chip goes is clean as can be!!! Also make sure that your hard drive and dvd drive are plugged in all the way (nice tight connection!!) Make sure that your hard drive is not at fault!!! You may have a faulty hard drive... Check for fried leads on the HD too!!
 

JimBobUK

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You need to get xbox working correctly before modding!
modding on a broken xbox is not going to cure the problem!
You need to remove/desolder your effort completely!
Make sure you do a good job and also make sure that the LPC is clear!
Use Braid if I were you!
But take your time!
 

chickengas

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The only previous solder problem I had was the D0 point popped off. It was resoldered and worked flawlessly for a long time....not only did I resolder the point, but used electrical tape to secure it down. If the solder point keeps popping off, then perhaps another way of connecting it should be found. Soldering to that point SUCKS. It may be necessary, but it keeps coming undone...wtf...either way, im not ripping it open again, i've had it with this flaky chip mod. Anyone looking for xbox with a 160 gig hd???
 

los93sol

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Tell you what, I will buy the box and take this problem off your hands, how much you want for it? Either that or I will repair it for a nominal fee
 

HooDoo

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chickengas said:
wtf...either way, im not ripping it open again, i've had it with this flaky chip mod. Anyone looking for xbox with a 160 gig hd???
Awesome attitude!!! Hey Ill buy that box, and I can promise you Ill have it up and running in less than 2 hrs, assuming you didnt jack it up too bad. Just take a breath, relax and double check your work. Or you could sell it to me. If you are serious, PM mee
 

callit

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oh FFS

I've had 2 xecuter chips, never had a problem with either.

Well, one had a bad bios, but that was easily cured.

I've been using my x3 for a month or two now. It's been soldered into place, and it works fine.

There are a great percentage of us who don't have any problems with our install.

But no, it must be the chip.




... I'll give ya $40 for the rig 8)
 

chickengas

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$40...lol...uh huh, any REAL offers? I'm serious about dumping it. Its just not worth my time. Reasonable offers will be considered.
 

drrellik

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ok guys, help is needed and appreciated. im a noob at modding xboxes, but not when it comes to electronics. the lpc area is clean, (as clean as i can get it) all traces look to be in tact, and have been tested with meter where i could test.

d0 area is also clean again, doesnt look to have issues there either. this is a 1.6 with no-mod parts installed at all.

i get the power on power off, power on, power off then frag. drive connection on both cd and hd are tight, all pins are in tact. i just dont see where i could have gone wrong. (not blaming xecuter, just stumped is all!)

thanks for any help. i do appreciate it. Happy Holidays to all!
 

naoneo

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chickengas said:
$40...lol...uh huh, any REAL offers? I'm serious about dumping it. Its just not worth my time. Reasonable offers will be considered.
if it doesnt work nobodys gonna pay more than $60 for it, may have a 160gb drive, but thats no use to anyone if you cant get the rig running :p
i also doubt anyone would pay more incase they get it in their hands and see a black hole where the lpc port once was.
how about some pics of what youve done to it before people give you "realistic" bids?
 

hardiiiiiiiiii

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drrellik said:
ok guys, help is needed and appreciated. im a noob at modding xboxes, but not when it comes to electronics. the lpc area is clean, (as clean as i can get it) all traces look to be in tact, and have been tested with meter where i could test.

d0 area is also clean again, doesnt look to have issues there either. this is a 1.6 with no-mod parts installed at all.

i get the power on power off, power on, power off then frag. drive connection on both cd and hd are tight, all pins are in tact. i just dont see where i could have gone wrong. (not blaming xecuter, just stumped is all!)

thanks for any help. i do appreciate it. Happy Holidays to all!
Hay I have the same problam :(