Problems inserting d0 wire into board (hole not big enough)

[wwmrtww]

Now I'm sure something similar to this has been posted before, but last night I searched around a lot and was not able to come across a thread with a similar problem and soultion.

I have an 1.4 or 1.5 xbox, can not tell without the multimeter, but from what I understand it should not matter for solderless installation. I'm using a 2.6ce chip with the xapter solderless kit. I have the xapter mounted properly, the blue lights all come on, including the chip light. I've found the d0 spot, and can get the red light to come on when i touch the d0 wire to it.

But the d0 spot doesn't even seem to be a hole on my motherboard, I've tried pushing the wire into it, as shown on the guide, and it has made a slight indentation into the board, but not enough to go through. I had to put considerable ammounts of pressure on it just to make the dent, so I am very reluctant to push any harder.

Anyone seen this problem before? anyone have any suggestions? One person suggested I try peircing the hole with a needle, if that safe?

Thanks for responding.

 

[jaggafeen]

you dont need to make a hole just solder the tinned wire onto the d0 spot be carefull just get the tinned wire to solder onto the spot and cover with insulation tape to keep it secure.

 

[matt77303]

Hi

no, he is on about the xapter you dont have to soldier the DO. i have never used one but from the tuts it should just snap in with a little bit of pressure.

good luck

Matt

 

[wwmrtww]

thanks for both of your responses, but about just putting it in, there is litterally no hole on the mother board, i've already put more pressure on it than i should have, and its still a no go, at this point im worried of damaging the board if i try any further, its gotten a little scuffed up already. Can i use the external d0 cable and solder that to the underside of the board instead? seams like soldering the built in d0 wire to the top would be much harder.

 

[wwmrtww]

well i finally got it to stay in, but it doesnt feel too secure, so if it is possible to use the solder option for d0 with the solderless adaptor, i would like to do that at some point. so could someone let me know if this is possible?

 

[Big_Whoopin]

The D0 point is the hardest part of a solder installation. While I haven't handled an Xapter myself, I assume the D0 wire should be of a metal that would accept solder. It should be possible to solder that right to the surface of the board but if this is your first time soldering I wouldn't recommend you try it. See if you know anyone that has done some circuit board work before. Get the D0 wire nicely tinned and use some flux when attaching to the D0 point on the board. Doing so will really help the solder joint.

I had seen a tutoral around somewhere in which the person described a pretty cool way of "adding on" to the D0 point in order to make it easier to attach a lead. I remember there being a dremel tool with grinding wheel and I think some scratch CAT5 or similar guage wire involved. No idea where it was tho.

-Whoopin'

 

[freakzilla3333]

You should be able to solder a wire (so that you can solder to the back of the motherboard as that D0 is bigger than the one on the top) to the metal d0 connector that is on the xapter/solderless adapter, then solder it to the D0 that is on the back of the motherboard. I recommend that you practice soldering on an old networking card or calculator or something first.

When you solder to the D0, strip the wire only by about 2mm, this will prevent any shorts. Tin the wire first and add flux to the wire and the D0 before soldering them. Use a 12W-15W soldering iron and you only need to touch the iron to the D0 and wire for 1-2 seconds.

 

[AZAZ3L]

Loose D0 Fix

After I kept taking on and off the xapt3r the do eventually lost its positioning and wouldnt stay in the hole, so what i did was place it in the hole, held it down with some tweezers or your finger on the top of it and then i used a glue gun to make it stay, worked like a charm, and no problems with anything.

 

[Rookio]

Can i use the external d0 cable and solder that to the underside of the board instead? seams like soldering the built in d0 wire to the top would be much harder.

In your case that is most likely the best solution.

*edit* What am i doing... this thread has been dead for a month... dunno why you're answering it now! oh well...

 

[AZAZ3L]

In your case that is most likely the best solution.

*edit* What am i doing... this thread has been dead for a month... dunno why you're answering it now! oh well...

Cause this thread could come up in someones search and the more info the better the thread is to help, and I hear you get a Free Pic of a Chick in a x3 rox my box shirt. if you have 1million posts, as of now im only 999,944 to go, that prize is as good as mine.

entry rules: must be 18 to enter, not valid in the lower 48 states, or if your breathing at the time the contest is over, thanks for playing.

 

[korndawg]

I have the exact same problem! The d0 point is really not a hole at all. I've tried to 'bore' it out, but it still won't stay. Unless there is a solution to this, i think i'm goin the solder route and forgoin the adapter. I've never really soldered before, so i'm nervous.

 

[rock11]

do point not big enough

Has anyone found a solution to this problem The do point too small. Is this the only do point thats available Please help

 

[batosai]

i just fixed this by slightly widening the hole with a very small pin(I've heard 30g wire is better). after that the D0 would stick in slightly but not "click" so i hotglued it down.

 

[rock11]

d0

Thanks I will try the glue

 

[Rookio]

Here is a picture of the Top D0 for versions 1.2-1.5

Are you saying that in your xbox this hole is non existent?

 

[drslot]

Solderless installations are too good to be true. You should solder it. You need a soldering iron with a very small tip, (Radio Shack won't have it), you HAVE to use solder flux, (Radio Shack won't have it).