Questions about drives to burn backups?.

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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I guess most of these questions have been asked in 1 form or another in the last year etc but unsure on if the info is out of date or really applies in all cases.

First off, all this burning drive has to be a ihas b drive talk. As in is this really the only type of drives on the planet that will burn the newer backups seeing as the Liteon ihas b drives seem to be the only drives that get mentioned to properly burn the newer backups.

Then there is the flashing of the burner etc if a ihas b can even be obtained to burn the backups. Is this an easy process as in as easy as updating a burners firmware via the manufacturer or does it mean an extra additional bit of hardware to flash a ihas b burner for 360 backups?.

Then this ihas b drive issue I've been reading about thats needed to correctly burn the backups looks like it might only apply if the console is going to be used for online gaming?. Is this correct as therefore if someone has no intention of ever using there 360 online (myself included) then a Liteon ihas b drive is not needed at all?.

If that's the case won't most burners therefore be capable of burning all\most backups (software permitting) so they can be played on a non online 360?.
 

dj_deknoi

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Dec 26, 2003
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The perfect reason to use a Ihas B drive is for the 100% burn, its not Just for Xbox live, alot of people play games online with the 99.8% burn, The 100% adds alittle extra protection online.
The main reason I use a 100% burn I has is the error's, burning 99.8% misses something, and that could be texture or anything making error massages come up when playing closing the game, doesn't always but has it afew times on games to why I brought a Ihas.

The reason it has to be a B is because it uses a 2mb, where Drive A,C and others use 1MB.. Has to be B for 2MB..

To get your hands on a Ihas B is soooo easy, my best and I use is Ihas 124B, i know there are newer ones but I like this one so i keep this one... Ebay sells these B drives from £30 to £40 so look there.

TO flash is Easy, google BurnerMax Ihas and go to top link, Read tutorial, its has easy has backing up firmware of Ihas drive and clicking new one put on, So easy and when burning game, Doesn't come up error to Overburn when burning game, it just burns..
 

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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Is that 2mb as in buffer capacity?. If so then is there a reason why other burners that also have a 2mb buffer wont work or in fact should they?. As I have an old LG GSA-H42L here thats deffo a 2mb buffer assuming that is what the 2mb above refers to?. Or is there anything more unique about the Liteon ihas b drives apart from the 2mb (if the 2mb is not the buffer capacity then what does the 2mb refer to?) that it still has to be a Liteon ihas b?.

Yes, I could go and try and get hold of 1 off ebay easy enough of cause, but I have a couple of spare years old burners here that might work if there is any clear information 1 way or another that means they might work before getting a forth burner that may well not be needed?.
 

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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Also in thinking as I'd guess the xgd3 games still contain an amount of "filler" thats not actual game data (or whatever you call it) but there to simply make them use the full space on the xgd3 format is there also no way to remove some of the filler so that the xgd3 titles backups can be burned on a non ihas b burner?.
 

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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Here is another thought before I exhaust all the probable asked before questions. But along with the burner max firmware thing being only for ihas b drives. But doesn't that exclusive burner max firmware for ihas b drives (and the re-badged clones) simply just overburn the discs to fit that extra last bit on?. In which case why can't you use overburn settings on the regular burning programs to get the same results?.

Ok, if it where that easy it would be known and there would be no need for the ihas b drives in the first place I guess some would say to that. But is it not possible in theory for overburn to give the same result as using ihas b drives if not why?.
 

warhood

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Jul 7, 2004
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It may be possible, but the simple answer is that the ihas and rebadged ihas drives are confirmed working by C4EVA and his team, so doing anything other than that is taking a chance. This includes using different media to burn to (only use Verbatim MKM001 and MKM003 from Singapore).

Burnermax firmware is specifcially made for ihas burners. There are very detailed and specific guides for using these drives, IMGBURN software etc. that create succesful repeatable results. Doing anything else is a waste of time.
 

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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It may be possible, but the simple answer is that the ihas and rebadged ihas drives are confirmed working by C4EVA and his team, so doing anything other than that is taking a chance. This includes using different media to burn to (only use Verbatim MKM001 and MKM003 from Singapore).

Burnermax firmware is specifcially made for ihas burners. There are very detailed and specific guides for using these drives, IMGBURN software etc. that create succesful repeatable results. Doing anything else is a waste of time.
Well I have read the burning info for doing the burns via IMGBURN and without sounding like I'm missing the point there does'nt seem to be any direct settings that apply on an exclusive basis to ihas b with Burnermax firmware drives as such. Except that the Burnermax firmware seems to overwrite the option on IMGBURN to choose what to do next when IMGBURN tells the user there is not enough space and asks to either overburn or truncate (however it's spelt) with the latter being what the IMGBURN guide suggests to choose.

So it begs the question, what option does Burnermax probably follow?, surely it has to follow 1 of the 2 options to either truncate or overburn via IMGBURN?. The only differance I see it that strictly speaking the ihas b drives has firmware on the drive itself (Burnermax) to tell the drive it can and to overburn as well as the burning program (IMGBURN) to tell the drive to overburn, along with compatable discs of cause. So is this the real key in a way, firmware on the burners to tell the burning program it can overburn than just the burning program telling the burner to overburn?.
 

RhoTrux64

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Jun 22, 2004
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DVD burners leave a buffer around the edge of a disk which limits the data area to 8.5GB on a DVD+R DL disk. BurnerMax FW allows the drive to burn to nearly the very edge of the disk, thus increasing the writable data area to 8.7GB. There is no truncating or overburning. The iHAS revision B (or rebadged with the same chipset) are the only drives the CFW was written for.
 

eazy

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Jul 20, 2004
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Thanks for the reply, I am actually ordering a ihas b drive as at £40 they do seem to be the cheapest by quite a bit here in the UK compared to some of the stupid prices that they are going for on ebay. But am simply trying to get my head round it all and understand the differances between what the Burnermax firmware does over what an overburn setting on a burning program does.

So from what I gather and probably correct from what I can tell is that stock\manufacturer firmware in all or most drives simply do not allow the drive to write to the full capacity for stability reasons and thats the key of what the Imagemax firmware actually does as it overwrites this restriction?. So surely this IS a form of overburning as it's writing more data to the disc than is intended?.