Questions on bricked benq drive

deszey12

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Yeah i'm a noob at this and its my first time flashing. I didn't save the original firmware.

1) Can you still recover the drive key from it
2) If yes do you have to put it into vendor mode? How?
3) Is there anyway to inject the drive key from Benq to Hitachi drive?
4) Are there any tutorials on how to do this?
 
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BL4K3Y

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If you haven't written anything the drive, use BenQ Unlock.

Putting the drive key on another drive is possible, but spoofing is not supported on retail consoles.

The JungleFlasher PDF is a great place to start.
 

rghpro

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I had a situation with an xbox 360 that was brought to me for repair the other day which resembles this somewhat.

I had a customer bring me 10 xbox 360 units and 3 PS3s, They all had SMD issues. One phat Xbox 360 had an 0102, I repaired it just fine, but when I attempted to load a game I got a 1RROD, every time.

It had a benq drive, I looked up the secondary error code (which I have forgot now) but when I looked it up on xbox-experts website it said something about a spoofed drive osig is wrong. At this point I feared the worst thinking someone had messed up the drives fw. I assumed it was spoofed and decided to connect it to the PC and see what I could find.

Upon connecting it to my PC the usual way, using my X360USB pro, the benq drive would not show up, when this happens, I usually just unplug the X360 usb pro and plug it back, and it shows, but this time I got nothing. No matter what I tried it didn't work, tried intro, outro, benq unlock, everything, I got nothing. You won't believe what actually worked.

Since I assumed it was spoofed, after trying all the accepted methods to get benq into vendor mode, I clicked Sammy unlock, after a few tries it failed, then I did the eject then half close tray for Samsung and tried to unlock again, got nothing. Right then when I was about to give up, I clicked "Slim Unlock", when I did, all the hash info came up but it failed to unlock (of course), but then the drive was finally detected as a benq, at that point I clicked outro then it was detected normally. I had clicked benq unlock after that and got to vendor mode, after reading I found the benq fw was old and the dash board was new, talking about 16203 new, so I used the Key I dumped and I used 0442 stock fw instead of the dumped fw, it started working fine.

The problem was fixed and everything started working great after that, retail discs loaded fine without red light.

I'm guessing some inexperienced person had replaced the drive and flashed the replacement benq with old stock firmware but with correct key, the person who did this was an idiot for not just using the firmware dumped from the original drive, however, I cannot be sure a benq is the correct drive, the only thing I am sure of is the DVD is correct as games still boot from the drive.

I actually wanted to glitch it and check to be sure, but dash was to recent. The customer was just buying broken consoles to donate to a kids hospital, so I'm charging nothing on this one. I got no $$$ on this one but I learned that sometimes going the extra mile and trying unlikely scenarios sometimes can yield good results.

On top of that, the xbox 360 system had a family timer and a password, I had to dump the nand and view the unencrypted smc to get the reset code to get the console functional.
I figured that if its going to be donated to a hospital I will take the extra effort to get it going as out of the 10 xboxs it was the only one that a reflow fixed. I got one of the PS3s fixed too, of the two.

Note to TX:

I know how TX only like solutions posted to be backed up and tested and acceptable solutions that a guaranteed to be accurate and working. The method I used to bring the benq drive back was nothing but desperate attempts by me to try to get a system going after an incompetent person worked on it. It was a RROD 0102, that I fixed then I got this error, so I wanted to make it work as I already fixed the RROD 0102, and for the kids the system was donated for too.

Thanks for reading.
 

Martin C

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No idea why that massive story was needed.

If a DVD drive is bricked, it's bricked. Nothing to do with the console whatsoever.

The only difference is WHY it's bricked. If it's hardware, you might be able to recover the SPI from the BenQ and get the key from that.

If it's been overwritten, you'll need to RGH to get the key.
 

rghpro

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I'm sorry, you're right, the massive story was not needed indeed, it was just came up when explaining the weird way I brought a Benq back that "appeared" to be bricked. I thought I'd just post it as it worked for me.
 

rghpro

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That's exactly as I thought, that's when I used the click "Intro" when Benq is connected and powered on, but I got nothing, then I also probed and and got nothing, after that I thought it was really dead.

I pressed eject and it ejected, knowing it ejected I assumed the drive must have some kind of functionality, afaik, the only time a drive is completely gone is if it does not eject or get detected.

I'm sorry Martin for posting that about the benq and the "slim unlock" button, I have no idea why it worked for me, but it did, if you could help explain it would be great.

Thanks.
 

evertonman67

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I had a situation with an xbox 360 that was brought to me for repair the other day which resembles this somewhat.

I had a customer bring me 10 xbox 360 units and 3 PS3s, They all had SMD issues. One phat Xbox 360 had an 0102, I repaired it just fine, but when I attempted to load a game I got a 1RROD, every time.

It had a benq drive, I looked up the secondary error code (which I have forgot now) but when I looked it up on xbox-experts website it said something about a spoofed drive osig is wrong. At this point I feared the worst thinking someone had messed up the drives fw. I assumed it was spoofed and decided to connect it to the PC and see what I could find.

Upon connecting it to my PC the usual way, using my X360USB pro, the benq drive would not show up, when this happens, I usually just unplug the X360 usb pro and plug it back, and it shows, but this time I got nothing. No matter what I tried it didn't work, tried intro, outro, benq unlock, everything, I got nothing. You won't believe what actually worked.

Since I assumed it was spoofed, after trying all the accepted methods to get benq into vendor mode, I clicked Sammy unlock, after a few tries it failed, then I did the eject then half close tray for Samsung and tried to unlock again, got nothing. Right then when I was about to give up, I clicked "Slim Unlock", when I did, all the hash info came up but it failed to unlock (of course), but then the drive was finally detected as a benq, at that point I clicked outro then it was detected normally. I had clicked benq unlock after that and got to vendor mode, after reading I found the benq fw was old and the dash board was new, talking about 16203 new, so I used the Key I dumped and I used 0442 stock fw instead of the dumped fw, it started working fine.

The problem was fixed and everything started working great after that, retail discs loaded fine without red light.

I'm guessing some inexperienced person had replaced the drive and flashed the replacement benq with old stock firmware but with correct key, the person who did this was an idiot for not just using the firmware dumped from the original drive, however, I cannot be sure a benq is the correct drive, the only thing I am sure of is the DVD is correct as games still boot from the drive.

I actually wanted to glitch it and check to be sure, but dash was to recent. The customer was just buying broken consoles to donate to a kids hospital, so I'm charging nothing on this one. I got no $$$ on this one but I learned that sometimes going the extra mile and trying unlikely scenarios sometimes can yield good results.

On top of that, the xbox 360 system had a family timer and a password, I had to dump the nand and view the unencrypted smc to get the reset code to get the console functional.
I figured that if its going to be donated to a hospital I will take the extra effort to get it going as out of the 10 xboxs it was the only one that a reflow fixed. I got one of the PS3s fixed too, of the two.

Note to TX:

I know how TX only like solutions posted to be backed up and tested and acceptable solutions that a guaranteed to be accurate and working. The method I used to bring the benq drive back was nothing but desperate attempts by me to try to get a system going after an incompetent person worked on it. It was a RROD 0102, that I fixed then I got this error, so I wanted to make it work as I already fixed the RROD 0102, and for the kids the system was donated for too.

Thanks for reading.
Now that is what i call dedication to not giving up.I enjoyed reading this and i feel it might give others a little bit of help when their drive isn't detected in J/F and they've tried all the regular routes and feel they may be at a loss.Brilliant :)
 

Oggy

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I'd like to see the jflog of that as Im 129% sure that it wouldnt work ;)
 

rghpro

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I agree with both of you, I'm not even sure the clicking of the slim unlock alone actually did it, it could have been a few things, but I got it to show by trying things that were unlikely to work, the way I saw it was I had nothing to lose.

I suspected the drive had the right DVDkey because right before the RROD, it blank screened as if it was going to load the game, thus why I tried to save it.

I may actually have the JF log, I will have to look it up in my laptop, if I find it I will post it here, I know how nonsense is not tolerated here and I would love for this to be explained.

I have modded/replaced at least 15+ drives since then so I will have to look into getting the JF log.

About the 129% not working comment, when I was actually doing this thing I far far beyond 129% assuming it would not work.
 

deszey12

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Dec 5, 2013
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The first time i did it i got benq un-lock command returned error then everything went wrong
 

deszey12

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I'm using a sata cable from drive to my pc motherboard and my RROD xbox 360 to power it. Can i fix this by gettnig the pcb board replaced?
 

rghpro

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RROD console for power?

Using any, including a working console for power is not advised, even though it will work, it may flag your console.

I noticed you said you're using a RROD console to power it, can you confirm the drive has power, does it eject?
 

Oggy

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Send MTK Intro with drive off, as it's resending and running .........

Ground this point then power on, once 0x73, remove grounding and read the flash chip.

 

jsinger47

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Now that is what i call dedication to not giving up.I enjoyed reading this and i feel it might give others a little bit of help when their drive isn't detected in J/F and they've tried all the regular routes and feel they may be at a loss.Brilliant :)
Yeah. Imagine if his Hitachi wasn't showing up and he decided to Sammy unlock.

In the case of a spelling error, I blame Tapatalk.
 

deszey12

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Dec 5, 2013
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RROD console for power?

Using any, including a working console for power is not advised, even though it will work, it may flag your console.

I noticed you said you're using a RROD console to power it, can you confirm the drive has power, does it eject?
it doesn't eject because it is bricked but the laser comes on
 

rghpro

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Yeah. Imagine if his Hitachi wasn't showing up and he decided to Sammy unlock.

In the case of a spelling error, I blame Tapatalk.
I was on a nothing to lose basis, so I didn't really care, I'm assuming your description means destroying the SPI, the way you have put it anyway?

I was already prepared to use one of my many spare drives and R-Jtag it for the DVDKey.
 
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Oggy

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Theres no spi on a hitachi
 

jsinger47

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I was on a nothing to lose basis, so I didn't really care, I'm assuming your description means destroying the SPI, the way you have put it anyway?

I was already prepared to use one of my many spare drives and R-Jtag it for the DVDKey.
Give it a try sometime. Its a great way to brick a hitachi drive.