Ran into some trouble while flashing

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Alright, I'll try to outline the situation as best as possible. Let me know if you need more info.

Ok, so I installed the X3 chip (solderless version). The pins gave me a hell of a time going in (I've done it before, and it wasn't that hard, not sure why it was a big deal this time). I got all five LEDs lit up. I put the chip on, hooked up the memory chip and the 5v. Ok, so here is the first issue:

- if I quick-power, I get the BIOS
- if I slow-power, I get the BIOS
- if I eject-power, I get the BIOS

I was thinking (as far as I could read from other threads) that it might be an issue with the 5v, but I tried re-seating it a few times, and no difference. So that's not good (because I can't boot into the backup banks without it, right). I continued on anyway.

I told the BIOS to flash from the network. That all went fine, but I don't know if I used the wrong BIOS or what, but I get the FRAG now when I try to boot. And now, because for some reason the other boot options won't work, I can't boot from the backup bank.

Any thoughts or ideas on how to troubleshoot this one. =\
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Memory was set to:

ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

It is for sure a 1.6 XBox (I did the step-by-step hardware check), not sure if it is 1.6 or 1.6b, is there a way to tell that via the hardware?

I did get FlashBIOS. It went to the FlashBIOS screen, and I chose a network flash, and it flashed properly, but it must have been a bad/wrong image, because now it FRAGs when booting. This wouldn't be an issue, except I have no way of booting off the backup.

So I think the main problem is that I can't do a backup boot (power + eject). So (I think) the solution I'm looking for is either:

- What could cause the other boot methods (long power press or eject/power press) to not function, assuming the 5V is hooked up properly, or

- Is there a way to boot off of the backup without using eject/power press?

Thanks for the help!
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Ok, I went through the hardware check thing again (to determine XBox version), and it is indeed a 1.6, not a 1.6b (Samsung memory, as opposed to Hynix or whatever).

So here is the process I followed, again:

1. Xapter - all five LEDs on
2. Chip - Red and two blue LEDs
3. Power - only short power works (long power or eject have same result as short power, eject + power does nothing (system doesn't power up at all))
4. BIOS banks were set to ON ON OFF OFF OFF (so I'm assuming 3.0.1)
5. Powered-up, went to BIOS (didn't catch the version, but assuming 3.0.1)
6. Chose HTTP flash.
7. Selected X3_3294.bin from computer in Internet Explorer (this is a working bin, I used it on another XBox previously, which worked fine).
8. XBox flashed and powered off. Power up results in 3 power up/down, and then FRAG.

Again, I would boot to the 256k backup, but for some reason, power + eject does nothing. So:

1. What went wrong (does my workflow look correct)?

2. How can I get back to the FlashBIOS again (either by fixing the power + eject situation or via another means).

Thanks!
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Damn, ok. So I need to get a different BIOS. I'll do that. Was I right to boot it off of bank 1234, rather than 5678?

As far as the other questions, when you say the eject board, do you mean that little red hook that hooks to the 5V, or something else? All I installed was:

Xapter thing (with subsequent pins)
X3 chip
5V hook (attached to X3)
Flash memory bank (attached to X3)

Was there something else?

I was just pressing power + eject at the same time. I was assuming that it didn't work, because the long press wasn't doing anything. I can try that tonight when I get home.
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Alright, well, for anyone else that runs into this, I fixed it. Here's what I did:

For starters, I still don't have the ability to boot to the 256k backup. I don't know why, it acts like the 5V connector isn't even there. Oh well.

So I switched over to the 3.0.3 BIOS by setting the dip-switches to:

OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

This got me to 3.0.3 BIOS (with the 3.0.1 BIOS, I got a FRAG, presumably because the wrong BIOS was loaded). I set it to network flash, connected via Internet Explorer, SET THE DIP SWITCHES BACK TO:

ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

(please don't forget this so that you don't overwrite bank 5678), and then flashed using the proper BIOS (X3_3294v16.bin, which by the way, is located in the standard X3_3294.rar file). The XBOX flashed itself, and powered down. I restarted, and voila, everything booted up just fine.

Good luck!
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Too weird, why do you think that is? I quadruple-checked the memory, and it is most definitely Samsung, rather than Hynix (that is usually the determining factor, right?).

If it was a 1.6b, would the yellow or green progress bar have frozen during the flash, if flashing from 3.0.1? I ask, because it didn't freeze. However, with 3.0.3, it did not freeze either, and since I used the correct BIOS version this time, it worked correctly.
 

Martin C

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Some 1.6 Xboxes work with both 3.0.1 and 3.0.3 - I had one at one stage.

These variants are named by the Xbox community - they're not official releases! If you have Samsung memory, then it's more likely to be a 1.6 than 1.6b as you rightly (and I wrongly!) said.

Martin
 

hexydes

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Crazy. Well thank God it worked, since I apparently have no way of booting into the 256k memory backup (or disabled chip mode as well).

At least it's working though. The clips the go into the motherboard (this is a solderless) just barely went in, so I'm hoping to God the box doesn't get bumped and one of them pop out or something. :)
 

adam.giles

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The reason back-up bios doesn't work (and the reason you can't disable the chip) is because you haven't installed the reset/eject adapter.

Nothing to do with 5v, which you seem obsessed about!
 
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hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Well I'm just hooked on the 5V thing because that is the only item I could find in searching the threads that indicated could be causing the problem. :(

So what is the reset/eject adapter? Are there instructions somewhere that talk about it, because I haven't seen it mentioned at all, aside from this thread. :(
 

hexydes

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Jan 7, 2006
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Ok, I think I see what it is now (not even sure if I have that part, I'll have to check), it just hooks into the motherboard, and then into the chip, right?

So bottom line is this: if I have the modchip working, and don't need to use Live, and don't currently need to get into the 256k backup...I don't really even need to worry about it, do I? I'd rather not tear the whole thing back down just to add it in for something I *probably* won't even need to use.

And if I ever do need to get into the 256k backup, I can just install the reset/eject adapter, correct?
 

adam.giles

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Yes, you are right. If you are happy with the chip always on, and aren't bothered about the back-up bios, then you dont need it.