BENQ replaced my laser but still won't read

[Rome 16:16]

Why don't you try to use the drive you are using to rip(0800). Just flash that drive with benq firmware. If it works without problems then you would know which really is the problem.

 

[063 xobx]

I've had similar issues with two drives(both Benq) recently both displaying open tray errors. I bought two new replacement lasers off of ebay from a previous seller i used before in which i had success from.I tried both lasers out in the drives and could not get either of them to work properly.I even took the known working laser from my 0800 ripping drive and i tried it in the drives that were giving me the open tray issues and it still showed open tray error even with the working laser in it.Once i put the working laser back in the 0800 drive it worked just fine again.

I gave up on them and figure that there must be some other issues with the drives themselves that i do not know about.Both drives open and close fine and the lasers move up and down the track just fine when trying to read discs but they seem to hang on "reading" for a good 1-2 minutes before finally saying open tray. All other open tray errors I've encountered has also went straight the open tray message with 10 seconds of trying to read the disc.

this is interesting, my drive takes a long time to go to open tray also. i will try teh ripping drive test.

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[063 xobx]

well i tried spoofing and just inserting the key into a sammy and all it would do is play movie dvd's. it also acted like game disks were movies too but would not play them. not sure if i want to pay the $60 for a new benq drive. this thing is posessed!

i also tried making the benq drive a ripper and it would not read the disks that way either. the sammy did though.

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[icebrg5]

The bad drives i was trying to fix were benq drives.The ripper drive i have that has a good working laser is a liteon drive.That's why i never flashed the ripping drive with benq firmware to see if it would work.

I already ordered replacement drives and they should be here Wednesday.After i get them replaced i might mess around with the broken drives some more and see if i can figure anything out.

 

[whataretheyfeedingyou]

Have you replaced the worm motor?

 

[icebrg5]

Have you replaced the worm motor?

Not sure if that comment was directed at me or the OP but i have not changed the worm motors in mine.

I might give that a try once my replacement drives come and i know they work.Also depends how cheap i can find new worm motors for as well

 

[063 xobx]

Have you replaced the worm motor?

if you were asking me, yes i tried one out of a working lite-on drive. there was no change.

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[063 xobx]

so i returned all three lasers the ebay seller sent me, and here is the message i got from him...

"I received the lens already and just tested on the drive. Three of them have no problem on reading. So i am pretty sure your drive logic board has serious problems."

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[Rome 16:16]

You already have done all remedies you can imagine still won't working, I guess time to replace your DVD drive

 

[063 xobx]

so,... in my journey to revive this xbox with drive issues, i have determined that maybe the drive is teh wrong make. being that the box was manufactured 6/6/2006 and benq drives werent introduced until 2008. according to this website...


dvd drive list by bmonkey36, on Flickr

my box had hitachi and lite-on drives.

now my question for those in the know...

once rgh 2.0 is released. will i be able to tell which make drive my box had originally?

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[Kevin26]

Try this replace the laser guide. I have had several dvd drives where i still get open tray when replacing the laser. I get mixed media disc and also unrecognized disc errors. To fix this replace the laser guide!!!! Sometimes it can be the laser cable but if you removed the antistatic ball, made sure the pot tweak was set to the standard 3.20-3.35 for Phats. Then check that the laser cable is not damaged, after that replace the laser guide. It may not seem logical that it will not be the laser guide but i've fixed several dvd drives where the laser guide was the problem. Its very very unlikely it's anything else i'd say its a less than 5% chance the problem is something other than the antistatic solderball, laser, pot tweak, laser guide, laser cable. Let me rephrase i'd say its a 95% chance it's the laser, laser cable, antistatic solderball, pot tweak, or laser guide. In your case try replacing the laser guide.

 

[axee44]

I've had a liteon drive that would just refuse to read discs. I've put few different lenses and still was giving me "open tray".
After messing with it for few days and trying about 4 different lenses i got it to work by lowering laser rails(two metal bars that laser is fitted to). unscrewed all 3 screws a bit and dropped rails about 1mm and now it works like a charm!! Just to note rails were untouched and screws still covered with thread lock.Worth trying if everything else fails.

 

[063 xobx]

i appretiate your interest in helping, but with all due respect,... did either of you read my last post?!

i am fairly certain that the benq drive i have put so much effort into, is not the drive that belongs there. :facepalm: i am also fairly certain that a hitachi drive belongs there. although the key i retrieved off the benq may not be the right key for the box. too bad all the other boxes i have are sammies! :facepalm::facepalm:

i must be :crazy: for trying to fix this box. but the challenge is fun. :rolleyes2:

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[Kevin26]

@063 xobx To answer your question "Once rgh 2.0 is released. will i be able to tell which make drive my box had originally?"

yes

 

[J2G]

Yes you can do this with RGH1 also if you have the right dash that is it will be in the KV info

 

[063 xobx]

Yes you can do this with RGH1 also if you have the right dash that is it will be in the KV info

unfortunately, before i knew what the hell i was doing, i updated the dash to 14719.:facepalm: so i am stuck waiting for 2.0.

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[J2G]

Then just put it aside for a bit and wait for rgh2

 

[fuccons]

Do you know how many worm motors i have replaced in the last 5-6 years in 360's??

ONE yep just one and that was because the drive was reversed powered and damaged it.
Chances of the worm motor going are slim to none.

Laser is 99.9% the issue.

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Could be the ribbon but that wouldnt read at all if there is a broken connection.
You can use a liteon ribbon cable if you have one laying about.

Blew up my last PCB the same way and replaced it. My laser isn't moving on the rails... Interesting. Maybe you can bump that up to two Teajunkie.

 

[airbuz320]

Try this replace the laser guide. I have had several dvd drives where i still get open tray when replacing the laser. I get mixed media disc and also unrecognized disc errors. To fix this replace the laser guide!!!! Sometimes it can be the laser cable but if you removed the antistatic ball, made sure the pot tweak was set to the standard 3.20-3.35 for Phats. Then check that the laser cable is not damaged, after that replace the laser guide. It may not seem logical that it will not be the laser guide but i've fixed several dvd drives where the laser guide was the problem. Its very very unlikely it's anything else i'd say its a less than 5% chance the problem is something other than the antistatic solderball, laser, pot tweak, laser guide, laser cable. Let me rephrase i'd say its a 95% chance it's the laser, laser cable, antistatic solderball, pot tweak, or laser guide. In your case try replacing the laser guide.

Just registered to say thanks to you. Was repairing a slim, finally got the new laser and still had issues. I was so confused. Searched online endlessly, saw this tip, yanked the laser guide motor out of an old BenQ put it in the 16D4S and instant success!

For reference, those experiencing the laser jumping around everywhere and making loud audible beeping noises, these were my symptoms.

Thanks again, you saved me.

 

[mrthemoth]

i have been working on this for days. tried many search querries but no luck. first i tried tweaking the pots on the original laser as per the instructions found here and elswhere, to no avail. then i replaced the laser with a new unit but it still acts the same.

in some of the videos i have seen of a working drive, the laser is parked somewhere in the mid section of the disk. mine is parked all the way in near the center of the disk. it does move back and forth a bit but not much. if i turn the machine off and manually park the laser near the middle, it just goes back to the center when i turn it back on. might this indicate a problem with the drive mainboard?

i don't think this is a power brick problem (like i have read in another thread here), as i have one power brick and multiple functioning consoles that all work fine.

is it possible there might be a sata connection issue? and how might i test for that. short of swapping cables?

any and all help is greatly appretiated.

bruce blessing

I have the same problem with my elite, i had it off my brother coz he couldn't be bothered to wait to play a game, i got a "NEW" laser from ebay and it worked fine for a few days, then open tray error kept showing when i turned it on, after 10-20 minutes of open/close tray i got play game so i did this while i waited for another laser came. The same problem occured with the newer laser, so i swapped out the small band as i was instructed this would help, nope same problem, i got another drive (not new) and swapped the logic boards over and this helped for a few months then that laser gave me the same problem and is still playing up to this day. Now tell me it's the motor again because obviously this had nothing to do with the reading ability, so how is it fixed?