RGH RGH Falcon Freezing During Game Play (PICS)

[pasta4r]

Install Pics
http://imgur.com/a/Ksam7#0


This is my first RGH and I basically taught myself how to solder to do this. The console boots a consistent 4-5 seconds every time. Solid and consistent operating temps, 12v fan mod and a standard box fan blowing cool air towards the box. I've been experiencing game freezes on most games (GOD booted from FSD) anywhere from 5-30 minutes of gameplay. I've tried different hard drives, different usb cables and ports.

Any Thoughts?

 

[Vest1ge]

Well first of all this is a software issue, not a hardware the coolrunner is only used during the boot of the console and it looks clean. So if the console starts we don't need to worry about that.

Are you using a USB Harddrive or is this happening from a internal Harddrive? (I'm gessing from the usb cables comments you are but want to be sure)

If your using USB is your drive high speed? because i've seen issues were people are trying to use cheap usb sticks and have heaps of loading / lag issues.

Also when you loaded the FreeBoot dash to the NAND from XELL was there any bad blocks, as that has a slight chance, of causing problems like this.

Solding Hints: Just having a second look at the photos, if you install one of these again, cut back the bits of exposed wire, this will reduce the chances of shorts and give a cleaner install, this is especially needed on points A,B,C. And personally i have found it better if you run the CPU_RST wire (D/Blue) on the top of the board there is less chance of issues. But your positioning with the PLL_BYPASS (A/Green) is perfect.

 

[voojoo]

Just reposition your blue wire and try again.

 

[Vest1ge]

Just reposition your blue wire and try again.

Do you even understand how the Reset Glitch Hack works? or just didn't read his problem.

Idiot.......

Sorry to be cruel but don't waste peoples time. His issue is not boot, but actually the other side of the Reset Glitch the homebrew software...

 

[pasta4r]

Are you using a USB Harddrive or is this happening from a internal Harddrive? (I'm gessing from the usb cables comments you are but want to be sure)

If your using USB is your drive high speed? because i've seen issues were people are trying to use cheap usb sticks and have heaps of loading / lag issues.

I'm using a seemingly High Quality USB external with usb transfers up to 480Mbits/s (60MB/s)

Also when you loaded the FreeBoot dash to the NAND from XELL was there any bad blocks, as that has a slight chance, of causing problems like this.

No issues here. Is it possible for me to revert to stock nand and start the install from scratch?

 

[Vest1ge]

I'm using a seemingly High Quality USB external with usb transfers up to 480Mbits/s (60MB/s)

Well that shouldn't cause any issues then. Have you tried games from disk? to see if its a general game issue or a transfer of game data.

No issues here. Is it possible for me to revert to stock nand and start the install from scratch?

Yes it is. But i wouldn't do it... You've got a good install, the console is booting unsigned code properly, the chip is doing its job. If you want to Restart. I would just go through and rebuild your FreeBoot dash using the latest version of 360Multibuilder and flash it to you NAND through XELL recovery (pressing eject to boot)

Or even try repairing you original NAND before build, as there may be potential errors there.

Just i would not recommend going through and destroying a good install. For no real reason

 

[TilVl]

Change your wire position. Even though it boots it can still cause freezing.

 

[jsinger47]

Could also be rrod on its way. 12v fan mods don't prevent rrod

 

[ryanpotgieter]

is there any corruption in display when it freezes? Ive reballed many falcons because of freezing issues and have found its normally one of the ram modules.

 

[pasta4r]

is there any corruption in display when it freezes? Ive reballed many falcons because of freezing issues and have found its normally one of the ram modules.

Nope. Just quite literally a freeze. Like someone hit the pause button.

 

[pasta4r]

I went ahead and rebuilt, and flashed my freeboot dash Via Xell. It seems to have possibly fixed the issue. I have been playing from hard drive well past the point where freezes were occurring before the rebuild.

 

[pasta4r]

So everything seems to be working well thus far. I decided to do a nand read for sh*ts & gigs. I'm getting a error 250 reading block 3F3 03FF. I had someone help me do the initial glitching and maybe he just passed over this. Could this be the culprit?

 

[DayvG]

No mate, that blocks been remapped so shouldn't cause any bother. From my experience freezes are normally down to a potential reflow/reball needed and wire positions from the install. It's usually the latter.


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[H3rmaN]

Do you even understand how the Reset Glitch Hack works? or just didn't read his problem.

Idiot.......

Sorry to be cruel but don't waste peoples time. His issue is not boot, but actually the other side of the Reset Glitch the homebrew software...

I'm sorry, but do YOU know how the RGH works? Don't go calling people idiots if it's going to make you look like one.

Freezing CAN be a wiring issue. I had a 512MB BB Jasper on Saturday that was experiencing the same issues, freezing when playing any game for around 5-10 minutes, the fix....re-route the green CPU_PLL_BYPASS wire.

Believe me, I tried different versions of dashlaunch, erasing the NAND, creating a totally new freeboot image and writing it with nandpro, various different things to do with software, but the ONLY fix was after the PLL_BYPASS has been re-routed.

Funnily enough it has been working perfectly fine since then and the owner has completed a couple of games with no issues since.

So freezing problems are not only software issues, they can and are sometimes wiring related.

What's the saying again, it's best to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. :rolleyes2:

As for the OP's problem, if re-installing freeboot has solved it, then great, but if it keeps happening, re-route your green wire away from the X-clamps, it has caused me issues in the past going under them.

Re-route the wires to be exactly like below, that's what fixed the 512MB BB Jasper freezing issues for me and some others in the past.

 

[Utmad]

As H3rmaN says this is going to be an interferance issue I have a couple of Jaspers that used to freeze anything between 1-10 minutes. I insualted the wires by putting tape between the wires and the board and then re-routed as above and the work perfect now. As my kids play them for hours, thanks god they are japsers

 

[pasta4r]

I also moved the wires to be more like the image and everything continues to run pretty well. Thanks for your help!

 

[synxx]

Do you even understand how the Reset Glitch Hack works? or just didn't read his problem.

Idiot.......

Sorry to be cruel but don't waste peoples time. His issue is not boot, but actually the other side of the Reset Glitch the homebrew software...

i think you need to look at yourself and ask if you know how the hack works. wrong positioning of wires CAN cause freezing as H3rmaN has said. ive just fixed a console for someone which had a freezing issue after 10 mins of gameplay and it was the blue wire that needed moving.

Idiot!
sorry to be cruel but dont waste peoples time if your not going to start from the basic checks first.:facepalm:
this was refering to the guy in my quote just to sort out any confusion

 

[pasta4r]

Idiot!
sorry to be cruel but dont waste peoples time if your not going to start from the basic checks first.:facepalm:

I hope you're not referring to me as a idiot. This is the noob section of the forum after all. I believed my issue
was beyond the wiring layout, so I asked.

If you're not referring to me then sorry.

 

[oO Elite Oo]

This freezing issue might also be your GPU, freezing can be due to not good connection with heat sink which will require you to reapply the thermal compound... but something tells me the iso file you have is corrupted or if i were you rip the game using the FSD rip feature.

 

[pasta4r]

I was experiencing GPU Temps in the high 60's (C). Today I did the XLclamp FIX and cleaned and reapplied thermal compound to the GPU & CPU.