oO Elite Oo
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Your Temp should be below 50 on high speed (fan) my usually sits around low 40's. Whats the temp now after you did the x clamp fix?
RGH RGH Falcon Freezing During Game Play (PICS)
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no i wasnt refering to you at all pal, sorry if you thought i was.
I hope you're not referring to me as a idiot. This is the noob section of the forum after all. I believed my issue
was beyond the wiring layout, so I asked.
If you're not referring to me then sorry.
i was refering to the guy i quoted thinking he know's it all.
I did the 12v fan mod as well. Right now after about 10 Minutes running CPU : 37.99C , GPU : 55.83C ,MEM : 48.64C, CASE : 32.01C
I've been using this other super high tech fan mod.
:rolleyes2:
Temps after ten mins with fan
CPU : 38.25C , GPU : 47.93C ,MEM : 40.70C , CASE : 28.16C , 28
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oO Elite Oo
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That wont help lol, your suppose to draw more Air out but the air your putting in isnt helping at all.
Temperatures look fine, are you sure the RGH isn't causing the freezing? Had a Jasper this weekend that froze oddly until I re-routed RST.
Goldensavage
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I had to put thermal pads on the GPU to stop freezing.
They could be getting to where they need reflowing.
This is my fan mod and how it should be done
That big fan is not really helping the underneath Ram chips
They could be getting to where they need reflowing.
This is my fan mod and how it should be done
That big fan is not really helping the underneath Ram chips
Ive had one jasper that was super picky about how the wires where ran on the board....booted perfectly but would freeze 30mins into a game...so be nice and help the thread with things that work not being a negative Nancy...:biggrin:....Move your wires to different areas see if it helps
Temps in the high 60's is not an issue, if you check out the NAND in 360 dump tool you can see what temps the 360 is set to maintain.
IIRC the desired temps for a Falcon console are...
CPU - 80*C
GPU - 75*C
ERAM - 78*C
The shut down temps are 100-102*C, however you can adjust the temp you desire in your NAND and the 360 will automatically adjust the fans to maintain the temps you set.
This is true, but also where MS failed. They shut off temps are way to high thus causing the RRoD and cpu/gpu problems.
Martin C
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To add to this interesting read, most freezes I've fixed have been either soldering or wiring (or a combination of both).
Possibly, but RRoD was an unforseen issue, temps of 100*C won't damage the actual BGA package of the CPU or GPU, these things are normally tested to constant temps of 150*C or there abouts before mass production starts, however no-one ever thought for 1 minute that the BGA connections themselves would cause so many issues with lead free solder.
Had they used a PC style socket then all the GPU related RRoD issues we see would be non-existant, but that would have been an un-nessesary extra cost, and as such normal BGA connections were chosen, which makes perfect sense.
If you have followed things to a rule as Martin has stated wiring or soldering you should be good to go. As a rule of thumb I strip board right down apply new Thermal Artic 5 of course. Clean whole board with pure alchol this removes dirt . sort out rgh/jtag double check wires for good solder points. Now again Martin will get my thumbs up I had a falcon giving me grief once and Martin has come to my rescue. I went away for a bit then checked his photos and noticed I had a wire a bit too close to a mosfet so relocated and bang system running sweet. Remember take caution we are working on units that have been running for upto 4-5 years before we get our grubby mits on them lol. So take your time , I am not a expert but those that make posts to help us out in vip mode or supermod status know what they are talking about , so please listen to them.
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as a footnote. Yesterday I started work on a jtag system . Yes a Xenon as well . Now before I opened it up system was working fine. ok did a bit of tinkering and soldered wires to board . did nand bits and bang 0102 . So today I am going to reflow gpu/ram chips . Just goes to show even though it may have been fine before hand doesn't mean it wasn't going to rrod on you. Again as stated before this are old units by todays standards so take care and caution . P.S good luck with you falcon.
---------- Post added at 01:15 ---------- Previous post was at 01:09 ----------
as a footnote. Yesterday I started work on a jtag system . Yes a Xenon as well . Now before I opened it up system was working fine. ok did a bit of tinkering and soldered wires to board . did nand bits and bang 0102 . So today I am going to reflow gpu/ram chips . Just goes to show even though it may have been fine before hand doesn't mean it wasn't going to rrod on you. Again as stated before this are old units by todays standards so take care and caution . P.S good luck with you falcon.
i had same problem as you install was perfect booted first time every time instantly and i suffered from freezing during gameplay i read on the tx forum someone else suffering the same problem and they fixed it by putting electrical tape underneath the wires and over the top of the wires so i removed the installers glue and used elec tape solved my problems no freezing since hope this helps gelboy
gelboy normally its big block jaspers that need the double tape insolation but glad you sorted it this way . Basically you isolated the wires from the board but as you also stated it was reading around on the forum that you tried this method and it worked for you . Personally never had a problem like this with a falcon but as they say one persons tea is another persons coffee.
I have a falcon right now that I rgh'd and it freezes. Wrote stock nand back and still freezes. So try your stock nand and play for a bit. I know I want to get rid of this falcon for about 50 bucks.