FALCON RGH2+ Freezes

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BrockThunderjam

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Put stock back on but the fans are acting weird. They dont power on until about 15 seconds later I turn the console on.

EDIT: Console 3 ringed me

EDIT2: I put the post bit jumper back in and it instabooted. I am REALLY confused now.

EDIT3: Boots retail just fine with the cr4 in. Doesnt work without
Are you absolutely sure you wrote your retail image back? I dont see how it wont boot with the CR4 connected. You do know that just because it boots to the MS Dash that doesnt mean its retail right?
 
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No, there arent any bad blocks. However the console won't turn boot anymore, the RF panel just blinks continuously. wut.

EDIT: I rebuilt the a Xebuild image based off the stock nand and reflashed. But, the CR4's debug light is basically in a inverted state (When it should be off, it's on, and when it should be on, it's off)
Are you absolutely sure you wrote your retail image back? I dont see how it wont boot with the CR4 connected. You do know that just because it boots to the MS Dash that doesnt mean its retail right?
yep,and afaik it wont boot a retail img at all with a cr chip soldered in it.
 
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yep,and afaik it wont boot a retail img at all with a cr chip soldered in it.
I am absolutely positive I had wrote the retail image back while the Cr4 was still in. In case i'm wrong, what should I look for (besides the console booting) that are signs of the console running retail?

EDIT: It wouldn't run xexmenu if that matters.
 
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I am absolutely positive I had wrote the retail image back while the Cr4 was still in. In case i'm wrong, what should I look for (besides the console booting) that are signs of the console running retail?

EDIT: It wouldn't run xexmenu if that matters.
if it wont run xexmenu then it should be retail,still freezing though?
 
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if it wont run xexmenu then it should be retail,still freezing though?
I think what had happened was that somewhere along the line I didn't flash retail correctly. Therefore the console would still freeze, but I'm positive retail is on the console this time.
 

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I think what had happened was that somewhere along the line I didn't flash retail correctly. Therefore the console would still freeze, but I'm positive retail is on the console this time.
and its running fine now on retail correct?
 
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and its running fine now on retail correct?
It hasn't (EDIT: froze) the somewhat 40-50 times I rebooted it. I'm hoping that the GPU doesnt actually need to be reballed.
 
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It hasn't (EDIT: froze) the somewhat 40-50 times I rebooted it. I'm hoping that the GPU doesnt actually need to be reballed.
play some games on it as retail for a bit and make sure it dont do anything it shouldnt,and if it dont freeze or anything like that on retail,we know its not a hardware issue,but something to do with the rgh.
 
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play some games on it as retail for a bit and make sure it dont do anything it shouldnt,and if it dont freeze or anything like that on retail,we know its not a hardware issue,but something to do with the rgh.

Ok, but there is something else I want to mention. Before when I was trying to get the console to glitch into xell (and still somewhat now) the console would seem like it would successfully boot. It seems like the light sequence the RF panel does when the console boots gets cut off by the CR4 followed by a debug light. The CR4 would endlessly glitch from there. Any ideas?
 

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Ok, but there is something else I want to mention. Before when I was trying to get the console to glitch into xell (and still somewhat now) the console would seem like it would successfully boot. It seems like the light sequence the RF panel does when the console boots gets cut off by the CR4 followed by a debug light. The CR4 would endlessly glitch from there. Any ideas?
have you tried the cr4 fix for jasper/falcon smc in this thread?
 
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have you tried the cr4 fix for jasper/falcon smc in this thread?
I tried that, seems to work better than the default SMC stuff. Also, flashing retail now results in 3 red rings from the console (5v from cr4 is removed and postbit jumper is removed) . However, when I write the xebuild image it glitches. I am thoroughly confused now. Any speculations on why retail doesnt work but Xebuild does?
 

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I tried that, seems to work better than the default SMC stuff. Also, flashing retail now results in 3 red rings from the console (5v from cr4 is removed and postbit jumper is removed) . However, when I write the xebuild image it glitches. I am thoroughly confused now. Any speculations on why retail doesnt work but Xebuild does?
What's the secondary error code in retail?
 
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Boot it to the RRoD. Press and hold the sync button and then tap the eject button 4 times. It will give you a light pattern.

4=0
3=3
2=2
1=1

Example: 0021.
 
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Boot it to the RRoD. Press and hold the sync button and then tap the eject button 4 times. It will give you a light pattern.

4=0
3=3
2=2
1=1

Example: 0021.

Apparently my console is possessed, retail booted just fine.
 

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Kinda sounds like a wild goose chase.
tbh I can't tell you how done I am with this console and the RGH2 :facepalm:. Waiting for the QSB R-jtag kit to come in.
 

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Just looked over the pics and noticed most of your DIPs on the CR4 are turned ON or are backwards, may solve a few issues you're having.:cool2:

dip-falcon.pngDip 7 should always be on, then try 1 through 6 one at a time to see which give a faster result/boot.
 
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that wont cure red lights on stock I don't think , if he as got red lights that is
There's a ghost in the machine, that's for sure. Still not a good idea to have ALL the dips ON tho lol, could be preventing a solution to the overall problem. Any freezing problems I've had with Falcons stems from R4B24 (STBY_CLK), I always use the underside point C4N27 to make sure to have a solid joint rather than nudging the resistor @R4B24 and having problems later on. I think he said he was fine on the retail/stock side on his 2nd to last post, at any rate I hope he figures this out...Good Luck!
 
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